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    Saraphin's Avatar
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    Dante Haiwindo
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RinaShinomiya View Post
    Yeah lets compare WHM's Afflatus Solace to Lustrate, 200 potency higher on WHM's end and you only get Excog once every 2 Solace casts. The same applies to SGE but in blue and their excog equivalent isn't even 800 potency.
    Okay now Afflatus Rupture. Hooray Indom is the same potency... on a longer cooldown... and without Plenary to boost it by 200 potency... oh...

    That's not to mention that GCD heals have the benefit of being buffed by every healing buff and not only those which explicitly state to boost all of them. If you're running WHM/SCH the healing power gets pushed in WHM's favor even further due to fey illumination only really benefiting WHM and SCH's Fairy. You're probably gonna have more luck comparing WHMs to ASTs but at that point it's not really a crime to be placed 2nd.
    now this is where we point out "Pure" Vs "Shield" healer.

    Pure are supposed to put the band aids on, Shield are supposed to...for lack of a better way of putting it: wrap in bubble wrap.

    Yes, Sage and SCH DO suffer when it comes from coming back from a tank going down low, which is probably WHY they added heals to the tank skills. However, we're NOT comparing WHM to SCH/SGE here, we're comparing WHM to AST, the other PURE healer. which shows the disparity between the two Pure healers due to AST's Buffs, etc.
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraphin View Post
    now this is where we point out "Pure" Vs "Shield" healer.

    Pure are supposed to put the band aids on, Shield are supposed to...for lack of a better way of putting it: wrap in bubble wrap.

    Yes, Sage and SCH DO suffer when it comes from coming back from a tank going down low, which is probably WHY they added heals to the tank skills. However, we're NOT comparing WHM to SCH/SGE here, we're comparing WHM to AST, the other PURE healer. which shows the disparity between the two Pure healers due to AST's Buffs, etc.
    The Pure and Barrier healer roles aren't worth actually caring about at the moment as there's no real value in bringing a Pure Healer because SCH and SGE may have slightly lower healing potencies, but make up for that in volume. Both have a wide library of OGCD healing on short cooldowns and thus output healing better than WHM. AST doesn't have an inherent advantage because they're a pure healer, they have an advantage because they're an AST, no one wants to play as AST, and they keep getting ludicrous healing CDs to make them more appealing. Even with its ridiculous numbers, SCH/SGE is the highest performing healer combo because their "anti-synergy" applies only to two of their least-used tools on their hotbars and can otherwise heal very comfortably. AST/SCH is slightly easier though and also has Macrocosmos.

    So yes, we should definitely be comparing WHM to all healers and not just AST, but even in that regard, WHM isn't winning in healing output at the moment and probably won't be after the changes either. Sure there are healing potency buffs that their heals benefit from more, but both SCH and SGE provide healing action buffs that both of them benefit from and are able to outperform WHM out of shear volume, like I mentioned earlier.
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