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    Hezhi's Avatar
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    Hezhi Lann
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    They're gonna take notes from the successful SAM rework. Say goodbye to Life Surge and Spineshatter (they took up too much space in the action bar). Also all your jumps become guaranteed crit now, but their potencies are cut in half. Please look forward to it!
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    Minerva Goldwinne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezhi View Post
    They're gonna take notes from the successful SAM rework. Say goodbye to Life Surge and Spineshatter (they took up too much space in the action bar). Also all your jumps become guaranteed crit now, but their potencies are cut in half. Please look forward to it!
    Autocrit stardivers, wooooooooooooooo~!
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    Reiya Rahamos
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    Dragoon is supposed to be a jumper, Dragoons in FF14 doesn't jump nearly at all.
    Solution makes the 3 offensive jumps combo enders for the three-string combos. Ie they replace Chaos Trust, Full Throttle, and Coerthan Torment with their respective jumps adding whatever original effects and potency to the jumps instead. This would restore the jumping of Dragoon to lore-friendly levels in my opinion, and use the replaced skills for abilities that can be used during cooldowns or drop them altogether. Or that's what I would do at least
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    Last edited by Selvokaz; 07-03-2022 at 08:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    Dragoon is supposed to be a jumper, Dragoons in FF14 doesn't jump nearly at all.
    Solution...
    Is that really something that needs "solving", though? The aesthetics of jumping are hugely different between FFIV through IX's two-turn nukes that double as means of evasion or backline-favoring attacks and... real-time combat.

    Do we really need to turn Dragoon into a pogo stick for it to feel agile, gravity-defying, and draconic / dracocidal?

    Personally, High Jump seems to fit the Dragoon aesthetic far less than, say, Geirskogul or Wyrmwind Thrust. Stardiver is great and Dragonfire Dive is plenty good, but replacing Full Thrust, Chaos Thrust, and Coerthan Tempest with jumps isn't likely to be anything like either of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezhi View Post
    Say goodbye to Life Surge and Spineshatter!
    Honestly, of any of the skills, I'd least miss... our pogostick attack, (High) Jump.

    I'd love to see it reworked, for instance, to be a versatile skill whereby you just jump up (avoiding all non-raidwide untargeted damage and taking reduced raidwide damage) and your next GCD is augmented into a sort of Dive variant. Granted, that'd mean at least a few extra animations would need to be budget in.



    Aside from that, I just want to see more of interest among Mirage Dive and Dragon Sight, and for Dragon Sight to be less frustrating.
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    Rhela' Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezhi View Post
    They're gonna take notes from the successful SAM rework. Say goodbye to Life Surge and Spineshatter (they took up too much space in the action bar). Also all your jumps become guaranteed crit now, but their potencies are cut in half. Please look forward to it!
    worst possible timeline
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Yeah, but I just feel like this more ESO influence or whatever it was that had a dragon mage class seeping into something that's not that. FF dragoon isn't a mage/pet job. It's the most established melee in the game and while it's gotten a lot flashier over time, they've consistently stuck the theme of you still doing physical actions for all the dragonic-enhanced moves. You stab, jump and throw. The only exception there is Mirage Dive.

    Also I'm kind of iffy on using very plot-specific characters like Tiamat or Vrtra as gameplay mechanics. It's just going to create a ton of continuity nonsense. At most it should be something like Midgardsormr's spirit force (which admittedly would be a neat upgrade to LB3 if they ever spruce up the animations), not something silly like you texting Vrtra to teleport to the moon every 2 minutes or wherever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Yeah, but I just feel like this more ESO influence or whatever it was that had a dragon mage class seeping into something that's not that. FF dragoon isn't a mage/pet job.
    DRG actually had a Wyvern pet in FFXI which is likely what they're referring to, and I believe it's where the "lolDRG" memes originally came from because if the Wyvern died there was a 2 hour recast timer and DRG basically did nothing for damage without it. Regardless of that though, we don't need more flashy "DoT pet" abilities that are fire and forget and we also don't need DRG becoming a pet job after 5 expacs of being purely melee.
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    I wouldnt be surprised to see Dragoon get the Samurai/Ninja treatment in 6.2
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    L'tanan Tyanu
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    My most pessimistic idea is cutting Mirage Dive and making Life of the Dragon a 60 second CD.
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