Quote Originally Posted by YukiB View Post
Comparing MCH to SAM or BLM is asinine. It may be a "selfish" DPS but it doesn't do anywhere near as much damage as those two. In fact, its own personal DPS is lower than EVERY melee DPS, even the ones that ALSO bring a raid buff.

No meta comp is going to bring two physical ranged DPS. That's how poorly they're balanced. If you're picking a DNC or BRD, there is no room in the group for MCH. Every melee DPS brings more personal damage, either a LOT more like SAM, or a little more and an additional raid buff MCH doesn't have. Even RDM and SMN are neck and neck with it, while also bringing their own raid buffs and support.

And even if you do bring two physical ranged for the memes, a MCH will still contribute less to their DNC or BRD friend's rDPS than every other NON-selfish DPS in the game.
I agree with everything you wrote here 100%.

It almost feels like MCH's damage is balanced with a personal buff in mind that does not yet exist, that gives him the extra 5-10% he needs to be in line with DNC and BRD.

I'm ok with selfish DPS classes being balanced to have highest rDPS in low performing groups, and lowest rDPS in high performing ones - due to how buff dynamics work. In the same way, I find it's ok for buff classes like BRD and DNC to have lower rDPS in low performing groups and higher rDPS in better ones.

However, that is not the reality we have. Both SAM and BLM, two other selfish classes, are placed higher than they should in both cases - they almost always outperform the others in the same role. And MCH is always at the bottom.

It's ok for damage to diverge based on class complexity - BLM is understandably complex, so I'm not against them dealing some more damage. But between BRD, DNC and MCH, there isn't really a huge gap. So why is our damage so low then?