Quote Originally Posted by YukiB View Post
Comparing MCH to SAM or BLM is asinine. It may be a "selfish" DPS but it doesn't do anywhere near as much damage as those two. In fact, its own personal DPS is lower than EVERY melee DPS, even the ones that ALSO bring a raid buff.

No meta comp is going to bring two physical ranged DPS. That's how poorly they're balanced. If you're picking a DNC or BRD, there is no room in the group for MCH. Every melee DPS brings more personal damage, either a LOT more like SAM, or a little more and an additional raid buff MCH doesn't have. Even RDM and SMN are neck and neck with it, while also bringing their own raid buffs and support.

And even if you do bring two physical ranged for the memes, a MCH will still contribute less to their DNC or BRD friend's rDPS than every other NON-selfish DPS in the game.
No disagreement here. Its why i am saying there is a bigger issue with the entire Phys Ranged role not being that desirable than just MCH's performance alone. As it is there is only ever room for 1 phys ranged, (if that). So which ever phys ranged dps is the best is the one people want. How is MCH doing more dmg than Bard and DNC going to fix anything, just shifting which class is the worst. We need solutions that makes the role actually desirable to begin with and not a hinderance to the raid party. I wasn't suggesting Dancer + MCH was actually viable, just explaining how RDPS and buffs work and that a Dancer + MCH combo would do more dps total than a Dancer + Dancer / Bard. Of course no one is going to do that, Melee are king but thats the even bigger issue that really needs to be addressed somehow.