After reading the patch notes, I guess I won't play SAM anymore

[HisShadowX]

Aside from Third Eye extended duration, every change seems to homogenize Samurai to be just like any other DPS, or even worse.

There was no reason for Tenka Goken to be changed from a cone to circle, and nothing was changed to address what every SAM player suggested (merging shohas, ogi namikiri, guren merge with senei). If every job AoE is a circle, none of them will feel special or unique, you just go in the dungeon and do the same thing with a different attire.

Not only that, they made Wanderer's Minuet change into Pitch Perfect which was Literally what we were asking to change in Ikishoten / Ogi Namikiri. It's almost as if the devs don't share ideas or don't want to help each other.

As far as potency goes I can't say much about it. I know it'll probably do the same overall DPS but certainly does not feel nice to read your 990 potency skill (with kaiten) that could crit went to 600 but always crit.

If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.

Where the heck are you even getting Dark Souls or like. Anything of what you said from the OP post?

[YukiB]

If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.

I love a good dogpile, so...

What the hell does this have to do with SAM?

[Silver-Strider]

If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.

Imagine coming on a post about SAM and ranting about Dark Souls and Healers.

[EnigmaticDodo]

If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.

I get what you're saying, kind of? If you want complexity, go to another game? It sort of does feel that way at times; That playing another game entirely is your only recourse.

I just wonder what the end result of all the simplification is going to look like. This current system is already sort of unrecognizable, if, like you mentioned, have been playing during the cross class era & before.

[HisShadowX]

I get what you're saying, kind of? If you want complexity, go to another game? It sort of does feel that way at times; That playing another game entirely is your only recourse.

I just wonder what the end result of all the simplification is going to look like. This current system is already sort of unrecognizable, if, like you mentioned, have been playing during the cross class era & before.

I have been playing MMORPG's since AOL created the first GUI MMORPG Neverwinter Nights. I saw the advent of Everquest and then World of Warcraft. Pretty much after World of Warcraft any MMORPG that catered to a crowd for hardcore players went free2play or failed.

The only old MMORPG made for hardcore players that's still running mainly due to rich and powerful players fund it with real life money is Eve with one battle costing players over $300,000.00 USD of lost money. It would be nice for hardcore players to have games made for them, but again the problem is they often fail or the games are full of dead servers with barely anyone playing. So they come to games like this that are more populated and then demand features that would cause millions of paying customers to quit. Most people might not remember the mass firings at BioWare Austin when EA & BioWare advertised the game as casual friendly and they launched the game to appease Star War Galaxies refugees. Then they held a 'Guild Summit' in which they paid for Hardcore guilds to go to Austin and listened to their feedback only and promised never to make a Dungeon/Duty Finder system.

Two million people left in that month once the game was made even harder and all the heads of BioWare Austin either were fired or resigned. FFXIV 1.0 was based on appeasing this minority of consumers and they had to close down the game and completely rebuilt it.

"DPS healers barely healing"

Ah, we have another DPS main who doesn't know how support classes work. Opinion discarded.

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I mainly main tanks and from there as I choose Healers over DPS. I am currently however, leveling a Red Mage.

[Semirhage]

I mainly main tanks and from there as I choose Healers over DPS. I am currently however, leveling a Red Mage.

Cool. You do know that mindlessly mashing the nuke button is what skilled healers do, yes?

[IdowhatIwant]

ISNIP.

Who cares about FFXIV 1.0 we are at 6.1 now, not sure if you have realized this yet.
I need what ever you are smoking my god.

[Ath192]

If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.

Scrooge is that you? Thats one hell of a grumpy ramble that made less sense the more I kept reading.

[Lunalepsy]

If you like games like Dark souls or think every game is easy even on Very Hard or Hardcore mode chances are this patch is not meant for you people sort of like how FFXIV ARR is not meant for players who liked FFXIV 1.0.

These changes like Healers actually getting increased healing after pissing off the majority of their consumers with DPS Healers (Mainly Sages) going around barely healing. This is a welcome chance like the removal of the cross class system which I know you people loved. I know your a new guy but its was a painful system that forced you to level other classes to get abilities, you would of loved that system.

So glad someone brought up 1.0! Even if design was clunky, gameplay was somewhat challenging. Of course, people do not like that kind of framework anymore, so the game has been simplified for the masses.