After reading the patch notes, I guess I won't play SAM anymore

[Roxus]

I don't find kaiten disappearing "gutting", and Sam was my favorite job in ff before it released in XIV, which I then mained until 6.0. And I wasn't bad at it. I'm no 1%, but I did fairly well in most of the tiers I did.

Different opinions and all that.

But I do find Kaiten disappearing "gutting", and Sam was my favorite job. I've been maining the job since it's release, and have also mained it in ff11. I've also loved the Samurai aesthetic well before video games and 14 captured the theme perfectly for me. I get some people might be okay with the changes, but understand many are not.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

But I do find Kaiten disappearing "gutting", and Sam was my favorite job. I've been maining the job since it's release, and have also mained it in ff11. I've also loved the Samurai aesthetic well before video games and 14 captured the theme perfectly for me. I get some people might be okay with the changes, but understand many are not.

My problem is, when the job changed and I didn't like it, I was told to go find something else that fit my preferences. Now that its changing again, everyone wants the job to change to fit their preferences.

Its the double standard.

[Roxus]

My problem is, when the job changed and I didn't like it, I was told to go find something else that fit my preferences. Now that its changing again, everyone wants the job to change to fit their preferences.

Its the double standard.

I'm not one of those people, don't lump me in with them. Thank you. If you were against the changes, you should freely speak your mind. You have that right as do we. If nothing comes of it, then it is what it is. Until then, please respect the people who want to voice their opinions.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'm not one of those people, don't lump me in with them. Thank you. If you were against the changes, you should freely speak your mind. You have that right as do we. If nothing comes of it, then it is what it is. Until then, please respect the people who want to voice their opinions.

I didn't say you were, but some of the people complaining about these changes are the same people, and i just find that funny.


I also haven't said others can't have their own opinions, I've only ever stated my own.

[IdowhatIwant]

ISNIP.

Who cares about FFXIV 1.0 we are at 6.1 now, not sure if you have realized this yet.
I need what ever you are smoking my god.

[Fable_Frost]

I've seen the math based on these changes in the Balance discord's SAM lounge, but a big part of why I enjoyed the class is gone now. It did suck to not get that crit / dh during a Devilment buff, but boy it was extremely enjoyable to see that 100k+ Namikiri when it did.

I could understand them wanting to change crit buffs and variance as a whole, but why only one class and right before an Ultimate drop? Not to mention how arbitrary the changes are, such as how Higanbana got compensated but the other Kaiten'd abilities did not. SAMs essentially have to relearn their class right before Ultimate or pick a different melee. I will say that this is the patch that would've made me unsub permanently, but I have an obligation to my static since I'm locked in as their melee for the aforementioned Ultimate. Hopefully, based on the responses that Yoshi-P made to negative feedback in chat during the live letter reading, I have a feeling this change will be reverted or more buffs will come (but we will see).

Exactly... I have been a SAM main for over a year now and adored the job, I've got bis and am locked into a new ultimate static as their melee dps. I also want to unsub but I feel committed to the static.

I think I'm going to leave the empty space where Kaiten was and just keep pressing it during ultimate since it's built in to my muscle memory and was a pleasure to use and see.

Even the Guren and Goken changes to be circle aoe are distasteful and will kill the fun of positioning SAM in normal dungeons.

After ultimate my SAM will never be touched until changes are reverted, if ever, which is very upsetting.

These kind of changes are not appreciated in a patch just weeks before your most challenging content is being released. This should have been an expansion change.

[Kolsykol]

My problem is, when the job changed and I didn't like it, I was told to go find something else that fit my preferences. Now that its changing again, everyone wants the job to change to fit their preferences.

Its the double standard.

I am seeing people be dismissive about the Kaiten removal, people who don't play SAM.
There's a lot of double-standards about this tho, it's the same with censorship in games too and if you're against it especially have a principled stance about it and call it out when you see it.
The same people who will mock you for it and jump aboard the '' who cares it doesn't matter '' train are the same people who will flip out when it's content they care about getting censored.

People just tunnel vision too hard and have issues looking at things from a broader context.
It's especially annoying and weird when it's people who aren't even affected by it.
People who don't play the Jobs who just chime in to mock people and gloat about it for no real reason.
This happened with MNK too in EW with MNK mains who were unhappy, there were people who only sat around gloating about it who didn't even play MNK and that's all they did.

[Vahlnir]

I will have to see how it feels before I make any solid judgements on the changes. It doesn't sound terrible, but it very well could be. There are some concerns to be had in regards to potency nerfs across the board. But I will have to try it first to get my answer. I'm rather irritated by a number of things coming with this patch, and I'm hoping this won't be one of them. I love SAM.

[ShanaShirayuki]

Exactly... I have been a SAM main for over a year now and adored the job, I've got bis and am locked into a new ultimate static as their melee dps. I also want to unsub but I feel committed to the static.

I think I'm going to leave the empty space where Kaiten was and just keep pressing it during ultimate since it's built in to my muscle memory and was a pleasure to use and see.

Even the Guren and Goken changes to be circle aoe are distasteful and will kill the fun of positioning SAM in normal dungeons.

After ultimate my SAM will never be touched until changes are reverted, if ever, which is very upsetting.

These kind of changes are not appreciated in a patch just weeks before your most challenging content is being released. This should have been an expansion change.

Indeed, was a dopamine button. Also check out this link, some optimism if enough SAM players stay vocal.

[Gember]

There is 19 other jobs you can try out. I am a white mage main; so I understand the pain of changes or no changes. But, it allowed me to try the 3 other healers in higher end content; and it was fun. (and a real growth spurt)
Including you don't even know how its going to feel yet until the patch drops in a few hours. Give it a chance and see if you like it. If you do, great! If not; its not the end of the world. Heck I still ran my happy butt as a clunky white mage through savage and still had fun with its short comings. Practically forced me to never die lulz. Its great.

(I don't know how to cheer you up, but that was my intention.)