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Thread: Patch Notes 6.1

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    Aikaal Leyma
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    The summary I got from the changes:

    PLD: Nice QoL
    WAR: Unga Bunga! My job is somehow even more brain dead.
    DRK: The real buff is that Blood Weapon adjustment~ LD is nice now in dungeons
    DRG: GOTTA GO FAST
    NIN: my rDPS is low, me sad. My personal DPS, me happy. Tanking is now even more brain dead because they killed Doton on opener.
    SAM: Seppuku life support hotline ASAP
    MCH: Nice
    DNC: Nice
    SMN: So you're telling me that swiftcasting my Ifrit GCD for DPS gain was too big brain. Titan GCDs are still stronger than Ifrit btw. Guess I can properly use my swift on my inferior raise button. Color me surprise, I knew I had nothing to expect. Searing Light is nice I guess. Primal Suicide Watch for raiders.
    WHM: FEED THE BLOOD LILY
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    Last edited by Aikaal; 04-11-2022 at 09:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    SMN: So you're telling me to swiftcast my Ifrit GCD even more now so I you can invalidate my raise support even more just for a GCD when hardcasted is still worst than an instant cast from Titan. Color me surprise, I knew I had nothing to expect. Searing Light is nice I guess. Primal Suicide Watch.
    The pps on Ruby spells is now the same whether you Swiftcast them or not. This change encourages you to use Swiftcast for movement or raising rather than a direct pps increase.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 04-11-2022 at 09:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    The pps on Ruby spells is now the same whether you Swiftcast them or not. This change encourages you to use Swiftcast for movement or raising rather than a direct pps increase.
    oh, it's the recast? well then lemme adjust my comment but... >_> I think they're missing the spot with SMN. At least it isn,t Samurai level of butchery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    The pps on Ruby spells is now the same whether you Swiftcast them or not. This change encourages you to use Swiftcast for movement or raising rather than a direct pps increase.
    but if you needed to move in ifrit you could just use the charge and then shimmy, unless youo had to go outside of the boss then just use ruin 4 any other time, well... theres no point in it. So ultimately it just means that swift will be used to snapshot Slipstream and the effect they wanted wont be achieved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    MCH: Nice
    Not nice. MCH is in the grave and deserves to be throw out of parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Not nice. MCH is in the grave and deserves to be throw out of parties.
    Lol Do you prefer the MCH changes or the SAM ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Lol Do you prefer the MCH changes or the SAM ones.
    At least SAM still does damage. MCH doesn't, and still has the same anti-synergy toolkit with non-crit/dh Wildfire and 100% crit/dh Reassembles except we've had those for a while already.
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    Bigger numbers don't mean much for samurai

    Hitting bigger dps numbers on Samurai doesn't mean much if the job itself isn't satisfying to play. Removing Kaiten is a really bad idea that lowers job satisfaction and complexity of the class. They need to either return it or replace the skill that also utilizes the kenki gauge in a meaningful way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RankaPC View Post
    Hitting bigger dps numbers on Samurai doesn't mean much if the job itself isn't satisfying to play. Removing Kaiten is a really bad idea that lowers job satisfaction and complexity of the class. They need to either return it or replace the skill that also utilizes the kenki gauge in a meaningful way.
    SAM won't even hit bigger DPS numbers. And they won't hit harder either; a guaranteed crit Midare Setsugekka or Ogi Namikiri will hit for LESS than a NON-crit Kaiten-buffed Midare or Ogi from before the patch, even in BiS gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukiB View Post
    SAM won't even hit bigger DPS numbers. And they won't hit harder either; a guaranteed crit Midare Setsugekka or Ogi Namikiri will hit for LESS than a NON-crit Kaiten-buffed Midare or Ogi from before the patch, even in BiS gear.
    You're right, I was looking at some of the potency increases. But yes, overall we will do less dps.
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