Thread: Patch Notes 6.1

Originally Posted by Kitfox

Not nice. MCH is in the grave and deserves to be throw out of parties.

Lol Do you prefer the MCH changes or the SAM ones.

Originally Posted by Aikaal

Lol Do you prefer the MCH changes or the SAM ones.

At least SAM still does damage. MCH doesn't, and still has the same anti-synergy toolkit with non-crit/dh Wildfire and 100% crit/dh Reassembles except we've had those for a while already.

Originally Posted by Kitfox

At least SAM still does damage. MCH doesn't, and still has the same anti-synergy toolkit with non-crit/dh Wildfire and 100% crit/dh Reassembles except we've had those for a while already.

Heres the thing. Machinist situation improved at least because all you got was damage buffs. Was that enough? Not likely. That being said, Samurai got electroshocked right now. They have auto-crit abilities that got tuned down and which anti-synergizes with the party. They lost a core ability. Not only do they feel and are weaker, but their identity was butchered.

6.1 Changes:
Math checked using a hacked together rotation sheet, which just for full disclosure ends on a Midare entering a 9minute burst window with 65 Kenki and 1 Meditation banked. Dumping the potency of that 65 all at once at the end(a flat 702 potency) makes the number 8923.839.

The autocrit rotation is identical except it turns all that extra Kenki previously wasted spent on Kaiten into more scattered Shintens. This means that instead of ending with 65 Kenki banked, it has a full 100 Kenki banked. Dumping this full 100 Kenki potency at the end(a flat 1000 potency) makes the new number 8920.721.

If we ignore that Kenki potency dump at the end it's 8891.179 vs 8871.439 just for reference. We're basically at parity with before.

According to the balance. So Sam gets small nerf to dps, and doesn't synergise with dancer, sch, or dragoon anymore. Overall, these changes just make Sams perform worse in certain teams. Ironic since this is a team game.

Originally Posted by Quor

Did the Balance factor in the multiplicative nature of buffs? Because the numbers I've seen put the new Midare/Ogi auto-crit damage at barely on par with raid-buffed non-crit Kaiten+Midare/Ogi damage, and far less than Kaiten+Midare/Ogi crit damage.

Maths here:

For the one posted in the previous message, no raid buffs are factored in. However, the balance did another comparison, factoring in certain buffs.

What this does affect highly are crit-based comps - Using the same examples as before with the following buffs enabled:
Devilment (7.2s first usage)
Technical Finish (6.5s first usage)
Standard Finish (affects all GCDs)
Dragon Sight (5.2s first usage)
Battle Litany (7s first usage)
Chain Strategem (7.7s first usage)

The comparison changes to 10533.939 vs 10212.023, a 3% nerf compared to a 3 DPS nerf (these numbers include the Kenki potency dump)

So old Sam performs significantly better with crit buffs, but I think we all knew that already.

Good for the rdm mains, I think they are in a good spot, although I pretty much use engagement 99% of the time

Its a bit worrying that the people most happy about the changes are the one whose jobs mostly didn't get touched kek

I haven't looks at the healer and tank threads, but I imagine the drks and whms are finally allowed to be happy for once. I never thought the blood weapon changes would come personally

Just took drks like 5 years to fight for blood weapon changes, if the Sams and nins work together, we can revert the changes in 2027!