Thread: 6.1 Patch Notes

Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

You'll want to use lilies even if it means overhealing. Misery now aligns with raid buff windows, which overall will make it DPS positive, not neutral.

I've quit healing (except for BLU) but I'll defer to your judgement here since I couldn't care less about parse numbers, but I do always try to avoid overhealing. My focus is on how fun jobs are when executing the rotation which leads me to an observation

Misery will now be once every 63s (60s to get the lillies and then 1 gcd to pop the last lily before using it) which is an improvement on 93s in terms of rotation boredom. Not much of a bar but hey my councilor said i should start looking at small good things more and thats something

Originally Posted by Ryme

I get where you guys are coming from, and yes these changes don't "fix" healers but short of more fundamental reworks, which we were not going to get in this patch I don't think anything will. Yeah there are a few things that are missing like combining some of ast's buttons that really shouldn't be separate but we got a lot of good fixes for what they are and I think credit should be give where credit is due. I stand by what I said and frankly, if we aren't willing give credit where credit is due when SE gives us changes that we want, why should they listen to us at all. At least that's how I see it.

The problem stems from why couldn’t we get more drastic changes to healers this patch? Dps did. Dps had entire buttons taken away. Why is it okay for them to get drastic changes but not healers? We are consistently being told wait until x and then x never happens.

Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

The problem stems from why couldn’t we get more drastic changes to healers this patch? Dps did. Dps had entire buttons taken away. Why is it okay for them to get drastic changes but not healers? We are consistently being told wait until x and then x never happens.

Just gonna let you know, the goalpost will always be moved. Been seeing it for over 3 expansions. Any problem you have is too major to be fixed in a certain numbered patch. Then when you get there, the changes you want are too major for the expansion so you're told to wait for X.0 for a fix. You'll see the media tour previw, observe patch notes, realize the changes are worse.

You'll try and tell people about it but the majority will tell you to "wait until the expansion the drops" before anything is done. By then it's too late. You know it sucks. So they tell you to wait for certain numbered patch and the entire process repeats. My favorite argument of all is when they tell you to wait for content. Like "Just wait for extreme to heal." Then extreme has no healing and they say "Just wait for Ultimate if you want to heal." Always waiting.

At the end of the day, WHM's still going to bleed mana, still likely going to be solid last in damage contribution, and you're still going to spend 90% of an instance going glareglareglareglareglare.

Potency neutral Misery is something I'd almost call "good", and then I remember that I hate the overhealing-encouraging lily system's backward class design and I can't bring myself to excitement.

Also LOL at Dia being a downgrade to Aero 2 now. There's always something hilarious in there.

they should give the lilly heals the the Ast card treatment
where you get a little MP back using them

Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

That HAS to be an oversight, right?........RIGHT? Maybe they will hotfix it....."Here is an upgrade but it will cost ya".

Its not even an upgrade if its the same, just costing more mp…

Thats… a downgrade if i have ever seen one lmao

Originally Posted by Cheremia

Its not even an upgrade if its the same, just costing more mp…

Thats… a downgrade if i have ever seen one lmao

This will be a buff if you stop playing doing content past 70 on WHM, which seems appropriate since then you can switch to SGE and start leveling the superior selfish healer.