Removing Kaiten: Who Asked?

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verse the Hagakure removal. So maybe, we can look forward to some kind of reconciliation in this situation, too.

Hagakure came back as a button you only use to clear out your sen charges whereas it used to be a DPS increase to turn three sen into kenki over using it on midare. So the skill returning doesn't mean it's going to be what you had before.

But that was massively split, too. There are a lot of folks happy with the removal of positionals. And, unlike the Kaiten debate, there were actually good arguments on both sides of the positional debate. The only argument for removing Kaiten is keystroke bloat, which was never a big complaint in the Sam community (number of hotkeys, yes; number of buttons pushed per minute, not really).

From what I saw on here, the only people who supported their removal were people who didn't and still don't play the job. Long time monk players were almost unanimously opposed to the change.

Nobody asked, this a change made to make the job more braindead that'll hurt some interesting aspect AND the feel of the job, everybody with more than 2 functional braincells can see it.

I didn't realize dark arts was that interesting....