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  1. #1
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    MellowMink's Avatar
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    Final boss is impossible to beat if someone goes offline

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    Frequency: Always
    World name: Any
    Monster name: Endsinger
    Class/Level: Level 90
    Party or solo: Party
    Area and coordinates: Instance (The Final Day)

    Steps:
    1. Start the instance via the Duty Finder
    2. Someone disconnects or otherwise goes offline before the fight starts, and yet the party still has 8 players; the LB gauge can now only go up to 2 bars max. The offline person can’t be voted out to replace them within the first 5 minutes of the instance after it starts.
    3. A late boss mechanic involves an attack that will wipe the entire party unless a timed Tank LB3 is done. There’s no way to prevent the wipe without all 8 players being online; shields and a timed Tank LB2 doesn’t work.

    This also would be an existing issue for non-story content that requires a Tank LB3 with eight online players, such as Alexander - The Soul of the Creator while playing it synced, or The Seat of Sacrifice while playing it synced.

    There should either be a way to vote to kick someone who’s offline within the first 5 minutes of an instance, especially in cases like this reported example where the fight hasn’t even started yet, or you should get to have three LB bars for the fights that require them regardless of whether someone goes offline. Right now, you either need to wait over 5 minutes before any kick can be done, or you attempt to fight the long boss battle anyway and then wipe because it’s literally impossible.

    This made someone’s first story experience with the final boss really awkward since the party did nothing wrong, so I hope this avoidable situation doesn’t happen again. Thank you very much for reading my report.
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    I mean, SE does not design fights around the idea players yeet themselves from a duty. So i dont think anything needs to happen to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidedge_Ragna View Post
    I mean, SE does not design fights around the idea players yeet themselves from a duty. So i dont think anything needs to happen to this.
    The actual boss fight didn’t even start yet in this instance, so it’s a legitimate oversight since the fight becomes literally impossible before it even begins. Not being able to quickly vote the offline player out is also an issue for aforementioned reasons. If this is intentional behavior, then it’s really flawed design that should easily be fixed, whether by not restricting the number of Limit Break bars, allowing early votes against offline players, letting these extremely scripted attacks be survived with less Limit Break bars, and there are other possible changes that the designers could make as well. This shouldn’t be moved to the “Working As Intended” section.
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    Last edited by MellowMink; 04-11-2022 at 03:22 AM.

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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    you REALLY can't wait just 5 minutes to vote kick the offline player in the off chance they don't come back within that time? learn some patience.
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