Overhealing done with Holy Spirit giving a damage shield

[HrudolfBerret]

Can overhealing done with Holy Spirit and Holy Circle give a damage shield instead of healing you to avoid it's heal being thrown away.

This skill's healing is very powerful yet very hard to coordinate with your healer in pugs to get the most out of it and it feels very bad to waste if your healer throws an aetherflow or lily heal your way just before your requiescat window when it could have been better spent healing your party members instead.

Our tank counterpart warrior has even stronger healing and they get to choose when all of their abilties go off to maximize efficiency. Paladins are at the mercy of whenever holy spirit lines up in their 60 second window and it might not always be the most convenient. I don't think this part should change however since static and consistent loops have always been apart of the class (atleast since I started played) and keeps us a little different from warrior. Holy Spirit giving a damage shield if it would otherwise overheal could be a smart yet effective bandaid fix to the one small quirk I dislike with endwalker paladin.

[Mithron]

Very good idea, also make Intervene transfer your current shield to the target much like GNB's Heart of Stone/Corundrum with Brutal Shell. It would fit the similar themes of PLD/GNB they currently share nicely.

[deadman1204]

Funny that there is a gigantic thread where tanks claim its herasy to say they have too much healing, and then this pops up complaining that a tanks overhealing isn't useful to them.

[Kniteroad]

Or maybe we can just stop making every tank a clone of each other. Wouldn't that be awesome!

[DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise]

A bigger thing would be Holy Spirit/Circle, confetti having the cure potency by default, and not require the 84 trait.
It would make duties much better for pld for a lot more content.

As of right now it feels bad tanking all throughout the game and then at 82/84 BAM PLD suddenly feelsgoodman

[DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise]

And then delete clemency, give PLD essential dignity but holy flavored at 58, and change the 84 trait to give our new holy dignity a second charge.
:thumb:

[QooEr]

if you're overhealing with those then chances are the shield is going to be equally as useless. a preemptive overheal if you would.

[HyonaCookie]

Genuine question: why does overhealing matter to you?

I don't get why this needs to be brought up. You could argue that it's good to have all this healing around. Sure, healers want to do something other than press their one DPS button all the time, but on the other hand it feels like that's what they rather be doing than babysitting health bars.

If "tank healing is too high" and "drk squishy" then what is the middle ground?

[ThorneDynasty]

Either the overhealing isn't a problem or you are blowing big mitigations during req phase when the self-healing would be enough to keep you stable. The game shouldn't refund all the EHP you lose because of bad mitigation strategy, tanking is simple enough as it is.

[Shurrikhan]

Only if you're willing to balance it down accordingly. It's tuned as it is in largely because its timing is unreliable.