Thread: Patch 6.1 Notes

Originally Posted by Ransu

Healers in every MMO are limited in their dps kits. FFXIV isn't unique in that nature and its intentional because you can't have a class that's focus is healing while also having a strong offensive kit. FFXIV may be a bit more extreme than most, but in general its normal for healer classes in MMO's to only have 3 or 4 attacks and maybe a dot.

So ya, I don't really have any sympathy for people playing healers and complaining about not having more damaging skills. You're a healer, your job is to heal.

Then how about they give us content to heal? Please tell me what we’re supposed to do in dungeons where a warrior can do all the healing themselves. Please answer me that. Or what are we supposed to do in savage or an extreme trial where we only need to pop ogcd’s and spend the rest of the fight spamming our 1 dps spell. I’ve seen some simps on here but you have to be the most dedicated one to be trying to defend their horrible healing system.

It's really hilarious to me. There's no expectation for tanks to only have access to damage mitigation abilities. In actuality, they have multiple abilities designed around dealing damage.

The game isn't going to crash and burn by giving healers a little more love and attention every now and then. Especially if a not insignificant amount of active healers desire as much.

Let's be honest: there's probably a correlation between that player's understanding of healer complaints and their degree of sympathy. Yet they feel confident in constantly telling healers to stop complaining. Maybe they should go to the healer thread and try make the claim they did. I could do with the amusement.

Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Yet again I see this take. I get it, there's people skilled enough to know how to managed everyone's HP making the job very trivial, but 30 seconds of straight dps with no healing in between? like please elaborate on the situations where thats even possible. It sure aint during mobs pulls where wall to wall requires pumping out them heals to that tank unless they're a warrior. I can maybe see this during boss fights or trials where you have more down time to dps and the fact that you have a co-healer alleviates much of the responsibility.

Basically what Im getting at is that Ive been running a bunch of group content. A lot of it while I was leveling up my healing jobs and no where was I so brain-dead enough where I didnt wind up using my toolkit and just spamming my one button. This is the take that completely baffles me because I just dont see it. I can only believe this for like Savage raids as Ive ran with my static who definitely proves the whole less heal more dps statement but I still feel like this is not something that happens consistently if were just generalizing.

Dungeons as sage i literally use haima and kerachole and that’s enough for an entire pull. Maaaybe a taurochole if necessary but that’s it, and then panhaima and kerachole for the next pull. Those are all ogcd’s btw, so i’m still 100% dps spamming in my dungeon runs.

Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Yet again I see this take. I get it, there's people skilled enough to know how to managed everyone's HP making the job very trivial, but 30 seconds of straight dps with no healing in between? like please elaborate on the situations where thats even possible. It sure aint during mobs pulls where wall to wall requires pumping out them heals to that tank unless they're a warrior. I can maybe see this during boss fights or trials where you have more down time to dps and the fact that you have a co-healer alleviates much of the responsibility.

Basically what Im getting at is that Ive been running a bunch of group content. A lot of it while I was leveling up my healing jobs and no where was I so brain-dead enough where I didnt wind up using my toolkit and just spamming my one button. This is the take that completely baffles me because I just dont see it. I can only believe this for like Savage raids as Ive ran with my static who definitely proves the whole less heal more dps statement but I still feel like this is not something that happens consistently if were just generalizing.

It's more effective to take 3 dps and a Warrior/PLD/GNB over a usual 1 healer 2 dps 1 tank in max level dungeons. I believe 8 tanks have cleared both p1s and p2s as well.

What does the new auto target option mean?

Originally Posted by CoolCat

What does the new auto target option mean?

If you dont have a target selected while using a target based ability (lets say, shield lob) the game will automatically make you hit the nearest target instead of canceling your attack.

I had the impression they're going to nerf Eureka relics in patch 6.1 because of previous statements. I feel disappointed not to see a single change in that regard....

The fact that basically all raid content in the game has been solo healed and dungeons being doable with no healers at all says enough about the incoming damage being way too low.