More unneccesary nerfs to older content

[Atelier-Bagur]

Disappointing patch
Square isn't even trying anymore. No competition so no need to try :~)

Well they do have competition between Lost Ark. A lot of people seem to like that game now despite the pay to win aspects. Which is sad, a game that has such a predatory business model still has more appeal than current FFXIV and WoW.

No king rules forever, and it seems FFXIV's reign was very short lived.

[Jkap_Goat]

To those complaining when was the last time you sat down and went to do these duties?

last week actually

[AnnRam]

No fun allowed.
New people shouldn't die in this game.
New people shouldn't learn mechanics or "get good".
New people needs both of their hands handled by developers and veterans the entire way up to EW ( if they didn't quit of boredom before)
New people need less skills on their hotbar because gaming anxiety.
New people need less rotations and gear progression
New people need less social interaction in a MMO.
New people needs to be compensated on equal levels than those pesky try harders

[aveyond-dreams]

The fact that I could not revive party members in those fights, especially newer players, has led to no small amount of wipes in the 8 years I've played this game. This is a functional change for the best, those players aren't learning anything by being completely removed for the entire remainder of the fight if they fall off. Goodness.

You will never see a fight in this game again where falling off = no more raises for the rest of the fight. It was unfun, especially if it was a new healer or tank that fell off. Difficulty could come from other sources that were nowhere near as punishing for the individual player as well as extremely annoying for those of us who have to then carry what remains of the group.

[Ransu]

The Sohr Khai thing was a fun gimmick more than anything, it's just weird to chose to take it away.

It likely will have to do with trusts.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I disagree. Not all players have problems with things others have problems with. For example, I personally like what they've done with jobs and will express my thoughts that the changes aren't a bad thing. I respect that others have different opinions; especially folks like us who've been here for a long time as we've seen what the game's been and the changes made over time. As far as ignoring problems, that may or may not be the case. I personally love the Ward system we have for housing and will defend it, but I also have a *significant* issue with them keeping them limited while also not upgrading the apartment system to accommodate people wanting a house-sized space to decorate. However; I realize the team have limited amounts of time to do things and that they address things if/when they can, such as the host of QoL changes this coming patch. Understanding this makes it a whole lot easier to have empathy for the dev team, accept the things I can't change, and keep my mouth shut.

I've told many people that if they don't enjoy this game then it would be in their best interest to find a different one. Hobbies are something that's done purely for the enjoyment of doing it. If the enjoyment's not there, then find a different activity you derive joy from doing. It's the same thing with games, not all games are for all people and often times finding a different one to play when bored or exhausted with the current one is a good option. I can't stand FPS, so I don't play them. I do enjoy single player and MMORPGs so I play them. Six years ago I went on a huge Skyrim bender and played it day in and day out for the better part of six months. It's a great game and I loved the mods I used, but eventually I wasn't enjoying it so I came back to XIV.

I'd argue that a good portion of people who tell others to find a different game if they don't like this one enough aren't being malicious, but are actually suggesting something that's healthy for the other player. Never once have I said that to someone with anything but helpful intent based on my own experience with MMOs over the decades.

I'm not even going to try to explain to you how the mentality of "if you're dissatisfied with what we get, then leave" is not only unhelpful to both the person who is unhappy and the dev team who will lose players without knowing why, but also an incredibly backwards and toxic mindset no matter how 'genuine and nice' you think you're being when suggesting it.

People express dissatisfaction because they want to play this game, and want the devs to know what could be done to improve their enjoyment of it so that they will keep playing it. Telling them to just leave and find something else is incredibly rude and dismissive, at best.

[Amenara]

Cool, so they changed old trials to match how trials since the middle of HW have worked. To me that is a QoL change so that when all my dps get knocked off in titan hard the fight doesn't take forever to finish now. As for the platform mechanics, I have run Sohr Khai more than a couple times lately and I barely even notice the platforms disappearing. All that ends up happening is you dodge the big aoe on the ground, and just jump to where the boss is. Maybe it was visually cool or something but the mechanics of it I don't think really even matter.

[IdowhatIwant]

then quit *shrug*
this ain't a souls game. You won't win even after withstanding torture xD

Why do you losers always say this?
At least once per page on any thread with a complaint some one says "quit the game, this isn't dark souls". Like it is some clever excuse as to why the game can't have any sort of punishment for dying or difficulty spikes, which is the most common thing in video games.

[Darthgummibear]

The problem with these kinds of adjustments is the logic behind them has an overwhelming tendency to be self-perpetuating. You end up with a much larger portion of the community grossly unprepared for current content which leads to more cries for nerfs which leads to more unpreparedness and so on and so forth with more dumbing down of the whole experience until all you have left is world of warcraft. Even before all the controversy that game had been bleeding players ever since the release of cataclysm for this very reason. I really like it here and if FFXIV goes down the same path I'll probably give up on MMO's for good.

[Chopstix]

I dont think this is a bad thing. Game clearly allows for ressing as a combat mechanic. How does it make any sense that u can be revived even though u r impaled by several thorns in p4s? It was an unnecessary complication.