Regarding Garo's event mounts....

[Juun]

Wait people win these things?

[CaptainLagbeard]

I wouldn't mind the Frontlines mount be turned into just participation instead of winning... Because you kind of need to get about 20 other people who know how to play by pure chance to get the wins... With Crystalline Conflict being 5v5, you can make much more of an impact to your team's chances there so it's not quite as luck based.

[Irenia]

Wait people win these things?

I'm now imagining a Frontline match where all three teams somehow lose.

[IDontPetLalas]

I wouldn't mind the Frontlines mount be turned into just participation instead of winning... Because you kind of need to get about 20 other people who know how to play by pure chance to get the wins... With Crystalline Conflict being 5v5, you can make much more of an impact to your team's chances there so it's not quite as luck based.

I really understand , a lot of people prefer small-scale PVP for that reason- their personal impact means so much more.

But- that change to just showing and getting rewarded for frontlines? Only if it was set to a very high number let's say 500 plus.

Aside from that, let's stick to wins, shall we, so that we don't encourage AFKers, kill trading or any number of people who could grief and expect to get rewarded just by showing up if we had rewards just showing up.

Frontlines is far from perfect, however winning when you have people who are new to PVP, can't read a map, are situationally challenged, etc, can be really rewarding. Sometimes people quit too easily.

[Vahlnir]

I'm now imagining a Frontline match where all three teams somehow lose.

I have been in matches where all 3 were equally terrible and it was a toss-up until the very end. lol I'm sure if this was possible, it would be done.

[Moonlite]

I'm now imagining a Frontline match where all three teams somehow lose.

Three way ties happen in shatter. For some stuff they count as win and some stuff losses. It is a weird thing.

But- that change to just showing and getting rewarded for frontlines? Only if it was set to a very high number let's say 500 plus.

Aside from that, let's stick to wins, shall we, so that we don't encourage AFKers, kill trading or any number of people who could grief and expect to get rewarded just by showing up if we had rewards just showing up.

Frontlines is far from perfect, however winning when you have people who are new to PVP, can't read a map, are situationally challenged, etc, can be really rewarding. Sometimes people quit too easily.

On Crystal at least they have several trolls who want match over as soon as possible. They try to feed immediately, not even oh we are down lets get out of here. It is let us just ruin everyones day and not even pretend. If it was particpation and I don't object I would hope it would be closer to 1k matches. If you are so bad you can't get the few wins in 1000 matches you should get the mounts.

[Minarisweet]

I was capable of catching up with the event when it was around. So I'm glad to see it coming back. However, there is but one major issue. So I gave a look at how to obtain the mounts and got downed by one fact, that being I need to at least win 10 PvP matches to actually get one mount and 60 PvP matches in total to get all three mounts.
To some, this may sound okay if not easy. Sure some would find it difficult a bit but no issues. However, I have played around 20 frontline matches, and... well.... matchmaking always throws me at the worst team possible. Out of 20 matches only 3 were won, which means I have to play around 500+ to even have a possibility of winning 60.
What's the solution? Instead of winning. Can it be changed to participating with adjustment to the number? Like instead of winning 60. You get to participate in 120 or 200 to obtain all three mounts.
This should do justice to people like me who're bad lucked enough to be with 23 players who have no idea how to press their keyboard and can't change the course of the battle against a horde of well-coordinated 48 players.
Now before someone jumps in and says: "Well... coordinate your fellows!"
I'd like to say I tried on more than one occasion and it always got the third placement.
So yeah. Please change the winning to participating.

Garo collab lasted a long long time for a reason last time, you should have more than enough time to get the rewards.

[Nyxs]

No. It’s fine as is. People got them just fine the last time so why is there a issue?

[Raim]

CC matches are 5 minutes long unlike say Frontline, and if its anything like the previous Garo event you have years to do it.

[Blindheart]

Back when i got the mounts, the only team that ever seemed to win was the Maelstrom. I literally changed my grand company to be in the “winning” team. I have no idea how people are supposed to get enough wins for the grand company mounts.... those need like 200 i think? This is probably why the newer pvp modes were 2 sides instead of 3.... but ive mostly given up on pvp because loosing all the time is not fun.