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  1. #31
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    Square Enix should do the same as GB in the real world's past. Send all prisoners to OCE to populate it (just joking).

    Free transfers away would be the death for the datacenter. We need more incentives to go to OCE. Furthermore we need cross data dutyfinder. The cultural problems weren't that bad in 1.x. I used auto-translate really often and it worked. Sometimes cultures need to clash to learn more from each other.

    For the remaining OCE Players I have a little optimistic point of view: with small amounts of people its way more important to have friends in active groups, FCs, LSs and so on. You get more dependent on each other to clear content and that increases the importance of the group. Your bond will be stronger than anywhere else. A real feel of a Final Fantasy lies before you.
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    What they should have done is put the servers in Singapore, that way the SEA and OCE players would move for the better ping. There's no incentive for SEA players to move to OCE servers as the ping to JP servers are better. People always seem to underestimate the population the SEA player base.
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    A lot of OCE players probably didn't want to lose their houses by moving. It might spike up again once that finally opens up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varilyon View Post
    Square Enix should do the same as GB in the real world's past. Send all prisoners to OCE to populate it (just joking).
    Heh, funny. Mordion Gaol moved.

    Of course only Sydney and Hobart were penal. The rest of the country was either already here (for 45,000 years or so), or free settlers from Ireland, Germany and others. And of course our awesome friends from Aotearoa, New Caledidona and others, have their own histories.


    Quote Originally Posted by Songkla View Post
    What they should have done is put the servers in Singapore, that way the SEA and OCE players would move for the better ping. There's no incentive for SEA players to move to OCE servers as the ping to JP servers are better. People always seem to underestimate the population the SEA player base.
    I am positive SE had very solid metrics to back up their choice.

    It's far from arbitrary. A company doesn't normally spend a few million unless the accountants have worked quite diligently to put forward the correct business case, and a case that would have to be examined in detail by the board.

    As customers we don't know their criteria, but we can be 100% sure that this is the way they considered the best for their companies long term profits based on facts like subscriber numbers, income, operating costs, political stability, and so on.

    Where SE screwed up was blocking housing so long.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 04-07-2022 at 02:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    Apparently they were planning on starting with 3, then expanding to five. But with the extreme congestion problems the JP datacentre was having because of Tonberry, I think they panic rushed the DC open asap. I've said it before, but I'm pretty sure Tonberry's congestion issues wasn't just because of OCE players. SEA also have a massive community over there. Probably bigger than OCE too.
    which comes to another thought I had.
    Why make OCE instead of SEA DC xD
    I'm 60% sure there are more SEA players than OCE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    I'm 60% sure there are more SEA players than OCE.
    SE know how many subscribers they have in each country, for a 100% fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    which comes to another thought I had.
    Why make OCE instead of SEA DC xD
    I'm 60% sure there are more SEA players than OCE.
    Most of us long term players thought this but unfortunately the loudest voices on these forums do not represent majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    SE know how many subscribers they have in each country, for a 100% fact.
    It doesn't help that SEA players cannot register the game in their own country. There is no option to do so. We either have to register in US or EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songkla View Post
    It doesn't help that SEA players cannot register the game in their own country. There is no option to do so. We either have to register in US or EU.
    Absolutely. The licensing of the IP is really muddied.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    Most of us long term players thought this but unfortunately the loudest voices on these forums do not represent majority.
    Weirdly enough, there seem to only be two threads asking for it that I can turn up, along with the fact that Yoshi visited the region back in 2014 and tried playing. This DC isn't as a result of the forum. That's for sure. The twelve only know the business case and why SE surprised everyone out of the blue with it.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...rs-Heavensward (2015)
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...better-latency (2017)

    The Brazilians ask for it way more than the Aussies ever did.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 04-07-2022 at 03:07 PM.
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    I agree with you, Shibi. Theres a lot of people saying we asked for this DC so we should be happy with it. I'm thinking...did we?

    I truly believe this DC exists to ease congestion from Tonberry and the JPN datacentre. Not because OCE players were begging for it.

    I do hope the population grows for my friends there but with Ultimate coming up, no one who is hoping to raid for it is going to want to stay on OCE.
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