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    Retrisar's Avatar
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    the JP players aren't really happy with us doing that. probably because Google translate doesn't really translate languages very well.
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    Don't care at this point . I'm paying Sub as they do , yet my opinion doesn't matter ? So either they gonna start checking other Lang forum as well or they have to deal with me posting there
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    Last edited by Retrisar; 04-07-2022 at 10:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrisar View Post
    Don't care at this point . I'm paying Sub as they do , yet my opinion doesn't matter ? So either they gonna start checking other Lang forum as well or they have to deal with me posting there
    Understandably, you're annoyed - but I really do think we should leave their forums alone from now on. Quite a few of us commented on the JPN forums a couple days ago, and a fair few were really uncomfortable with us being there, even mentioned we're breaking the TOS. Not only that, Google translate is not reliable... it can come across rude. Hopefully SE noticed that we went to the extent of going to the JPN forums just to be heard, maybe they'll take that into account and actually get someone to look at our threads now and again. But until then, we've done all we could - I really do think our voice have been heard, and even the JPN forums are discussing it on their own (they have 3 similar topics in regards to Hrothgar so far).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    the JP players aren't really happy with us doing that. probably because Google translate doesn't really translate languages very well.
    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    Understandably, you're annoyed - but I really do think we should leave their forums alone from now on. Quite a few of us commented on the JPN forums a couple days ago, and a fair few were really uncomfortable with us being there, even mentioned we're breaking the TOS. Not only that, Google translate is not reliable... it can come across rude. Hopefully SE noticed that we went to the extent of going to the JPN forums just to be heard, maybe they'll take that into account and actually get someone to look at our threads now and again. But until then, we've done all we could - I really do think our voice have been heard, and even the JPN forums are discussing it on their own (they have 3 topics on it so far).
    Didn't notice anything in TOS saying that im not allowed on JP forum . IF SE dosent feel uncomfortable by ignoring us , why should i care if they feel uncomfortable ? As i said - i've paid for expansions , for sub and was forced to use Fantasia to change my haircut . Im not F2P player who's should be grateful that he can even play ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    Understandably, you're annoyed - but I really do think we should leave their forums alone from now on. Quite a few of us commented on the JPN forums a couple days ago, and a fair few were really uncomfortable with us being there, even mentioned we're breaking the TOS. Not only that, Google translate is not reliable... it can come across rude. Hopefully SE noticed that we went to the extent of going to the JPN forums just to be heard, maybe they'll take that into account and actually get someone to look at our threads now and again. But until then, we've done all we could - I really do think our voice have been heard, and even the JPN forums are discussing it on their own (they have 3 similar topics in regards to Hrothgar so far).
    Quote Originally Posted by Retrisar View Post
    Didn't notice anything in TOS saying that im not allowed on JP forum . IF SE dosent feel uncomfortable by ignoring us , why should i care if they feel uncomfortable ? As i said - i've paid for expansions , for sub and was forced to use Fantasia to change my haircut . Im not F2P player who's should be grateful that he can even play ..
    If you're considering going that route, DeepL will help you more than Google Translate. But have discretion since the issues SherlottaEryut mentioned were said to occur partially due to Google Translate translating some things more offensively than intended.
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Prolly wont be seeing any genuine race improvements till well after fem hroth and the graphic boost. SE really sticks to their "priority list" and what we get now are just 1/2 assed crumbs to keep folks sated until the big stuff. Satisfied or not expect to wait a few more years my friends.
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    I wonder what the viera ones in 6.1 will be. I hope it's more than just the one shown in the preview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    I wonder what the viera ones in 6.1 will be. I hope it's more than just the one shown in the preview.
    and its hard to tell if the forehead is super big or not like they did with the ponytail they added.
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    What feels even worse than the god awful choices in hair that they chose for hrothgar, was also the fact that they were actively laughing at it (Someone literally had to sit there and look at that and be like "yea, this is good"). Like, they knew it was bad, the print outs were god awful, but it was still given the green light to be shown off. The laughing is what honestly did it for me. I first thought it was an April Fool's joke (a part of me still thinks it is), but after seeing the prelim patch notes today, it actually made that laughing have a bit more sting to it...Actively poking fun at something that has been requested and *PROMISED* for 3 years to come. The more I think about it, the more it feels like Malicious compliance...

    Now, I want to give Yoshi & Co. the benefit of the doubt because I dont think Yoshi is the type of person who would look the hrothgar playerbase in the face and honestly tell them "This is what you asked for...". He just doesn't seem like that kind of leader, but knowing that this caused a huge wave of backlash, but choosing to remain radio silent and not even at the very least making a post explaining the situation and the thought process that went into this is honestly whats making people even more mad ontop of the bad hairstyle choices...

    What makes matters worse is there is a thread on twitter breaking down the hair situation for hrothgars and to basically sum up what was said is that they had to make head models for the hairs to work or something since the hrothgar ears are originally baked onto their head models like the other races (minus Miqo and Viera). So, someone had to sit there and actually "fix" those hrothgar heads and put in the effort to remove the ears rather than taking that effort and actually fixing what was obviously rushed.

    Theres no way anyone believes that this train wreck was "three years in the making". It feels more like one of those projects that you know has to be turned in, but you procrastinate so long on it, that when you turn it in, its obvious that this was completed in the last possible second and for some reason you're still surprised at the negative feedback it receives
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    Last edited by Akimori; 04-09-2022 at 01:16 PM.

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    Yasuo Theunforgiven
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    Hey you guys wanted these races. This is just the monkey paw closing one of its fingers.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by JisKing98 View Post
    Hey you guys wanted these races. This is just the monkey paw closing one of its fingers.
    More like a compromise that has no reason to be needed.

    Also what was said above.
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