Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
I think the biggest issue with Shinryu was too many people not finishing their level 70 Job quests and trying to fight it without their Ultimate skill and Artifact Gear.
I saw plenty of groups in full 290 gear. It was rough even in that. The upgrade to the tome gear locked behind Shinryu was a big difference.

And they seem to have learned from that, especially with Endwalker giving the gear at 89 that is at full power at 90.