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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I mean, i agree with you on that. I dislike the direction their taking the game and spending resources towards making it a solo game, however that’s the reality. But as it is now, msq trials are going to be trust runnable. Hence, there’s no excuse to make story trials purposely easy because of simply being msq, it takes away from the story when they make it beyond easy like for example, Thordan.

    As for the poster above, this forum is for critiquing. If you don’t like it, there’s the door. But to try and gatekeep is just a bad look and just makes you look like a horrible SE simp and white knight. Are you going to go into the hrothgar thread and tell them if they don’t like the half assed upcoming hairstyles to leave as well simply because the devs are being lazy? I would really love to see you do that.
    So your narrative is to succumb to the reality and propose solutions that arguably by your own admission are bad? - I don't think they're trying to develop the game as a solo experience versus just trying to facilitate players being able to do so if they wish. There is a stark difference between making these systems optional and essentially mandating them, especially when they arguably have their own benefits.

    Many of these trials are not really a matter of simple ease versus a product of a poorly designed syncing system, wherein many encounters just simply become slugfest due to out-gearing them by almost double their required minimum item level. Not even A4S was spared this gruesome fate by the end of the expansion. They should look at redesigning how this works before they elect something else. That being said, your approach of essentially it being inexcusable due to the trust system is just inflicting the self-same sentiments on other players as those who have been subjected to oversimplifications. All you really do is flip the coin from:
    - Well the game should accommodate to the lower common denominator to ensure everyone can complete the content - Over to:
    - Well if you can't keep up go do trusts and exile yourself from the multiplayer experience.

    Things like these work great as 1-off experiences if the duties are to be treated as such. But I would argue that whilst many people would appreciate some more difficult encounters, they would not appreciate it to be the norm. People could barely handle getting Shinryu in their roulettes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    To add to this, everyone used to abandon Steps of Faith as well. When I did it for my first time after a 40 minute queue, everyone abandoned and I had to queue up again. After a further 40 minute queue, everyone abandoned once more and I was forced to beg the remaining 3 to stay and let it refill. Once it refilled, it was easy and I could not understand why everyone was so afraid of it.

    For almost all of the content with any sort of difficulty, most people wait until it can be done unsynced and farm it then. If you setup a synced party, most of the people who join were expecting it to be unsynced and don't understand what synced is. You have to try to explain what synced is and that it actually requires them to think.

    Most people just seem to avoid anything hard. They like turning off their brain. Makes it easier and more efficient to farm whatever they are after.
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    Call me pedantic or whatever. But this example in addition to many others is why I personally don't necessarily buy into this platitude. Regardless of whether the content is too easy or not. Historically when players have gotten something that isn't necessarily efficient, or quickly then they've often resorted to avoiding it altogether. Personally, I recall Shinryu getting so bad at times that people would just sit and AFK essentially holding the duty hostage until they got kicked.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 04-04-2022 at 07:48 AM.