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  1. #1
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    aveyond-dreams's Avatar
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    Agreed. I'd sooner rip up the lore than be stuck with what we have now. As far as I'm concerned my headcanon that I can call forth the subdued versions of the primals/whatever I want via creation magic > the actual state of in-game summoner lore.
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    Авейонд-сны


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    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclyte View Post
    Bad lore is a poor excuse for denying Summoners the job they've enjoyed in FF games for decades.
    "Bad lore".
    For something that's been established (and most importantly, kept consistent) for nearly 10 years, without much fuzz from the playerbase.

    Yeah...I'm gonna go with a huge no on that one.

    Also (and for the record), each game post-FF3 tackles summoning differently.
    With FF10~FF13 being the biggest outliers on how a "traditional" summoner works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arclyte View Post
    Dragoons get to look cool and jump, Paladins get to tank and use white magic, Black Mages get classic black magic etc etc. Summoners however are stuck with a "carbuncle" who stands around doing nothing, and used to be stuck with stupid looking "Egis" until they thankfully added ifrit/titan/garuda at level 90.
    You forgot the Trances (Lv.60) and the Demi-Summons (Lv.70), as well as its own LB3 (Teraflare).

    Just saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arclyte View Post
    You don't have to reinvent the wheel. Final Fantasy summoners are already cool. Just give us that.
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Agreed. I'd sooner rip up the lore than be stuck with what we have now.
    EW's rework is as close as you'll get to a """traditional""" (old school) FF summoner, all while being as faithful to this universe's lore as possible.

    Besides, story/lore consistency has been a key component since the game's inception (which also applies to its classes/jobs).
    Changing it because you don't like it would be a slippery slope.
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    Forever waiting on *new* Egis/summons (e.g. Ramuh-Egi).

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    Fun > lore. Always. I've already had this discussion a thousand times when it came to male Viera and female Hrothgar. Summoners walking around with a blue ice wolf isn't going to be detrimental to anyone.
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    Koko Lil'moon
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    I don't know what's the point of having to summon carbuncle at this point. It doesn't do anything anyway. Yet, we have to summon carbuncle FIRST, can bring it around if we want to combat.
    Please at least make carbuncle be auto-summoned when we switch the job to the summoner. That would be a great quality of life right there. So I don't have to summon carbuncle each time I get rezzed.
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    Carby Adalena
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    ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FLAW SQUARE. SAY SOMETHING.
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    Carby Adalena
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    A CARBUNCLE THEMED SUMMONER BOOK WON THE DESIGN CONTEST BUT WE CANT GLAMOUR THE SUMMONS AT 90 TO CARBUNCLES? SERIOUSLY?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraAdalena View Post


    A CARBUNCLE THEMED SUMMONER BOOK WON THE DESIGN CONTEST BUT WE CANT GLAMOUR THE SUMMONS AT 90 TO CARBUNCLES? SERIOUSLY?!
    This is cute but I'm sad my partner's entry didn't win. The entire book was carbuncle themed, not just a single clasp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MercuryD View Post
    This is cute but I'm sad my partner's entry didn't win. The entire book was carbuncle themed, not just a single clasp.
    That is a shame, but I’d have said the same thing there :<
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    Just started an alt and decided to go for arcanist.

    Gotta say, back when I started (when the Shiva update just came out) it was neato. Now it's just strange. Carbuncle dosen't do anything, it just stares at you until you can summon the other ones.

    If only he could at least do some autoattacks, it would be better than... nothing.
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    Carby Adalena
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    I just want some acknowledgment. I paid so much shit just for Carbuncle stuff because of my fanaticism. Seeing this just feels like I’ve been punched in the gut. I love Carbuncle.
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