GIVE CARBUNCLE SOMETHING TO DO/GIVE 90 SUMMONS GLAMOUR

[Grimoire-M]

At lower levels Carbuncle still contributes the same, since you summon him before the egi summons just like before 6.0 and you can glamour the egis to still be carbuncles if you want, just like before 6.0

I'd go on the rant but truthfully speaking if you want it just watch this other guy's video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwMUfh8VrQ

[LauraAdalena]

At lower levels Carbuncle still contributes the same, since you summon him before the egi summons just like before 6.0 and you can glamour the egis to still be carbuncles if you want, just like before 6.0

Just as an aside because I didn’t want to double post, but we are not talking about below level 89. Below 89 is irrelevant to this discussion because unless you’re doing ultimates or exclusively do SMN in roulettes with sync possibilities then it will be a very low chance you will actually have the pet glam system affect you: Which is why I am trying to say something. They’re literally removing a feature I love because of the customization to allow my character to summon who/what I want and not exclusively primals. If I want to summon small 4-legged creatures with a split tail that should be my choice, which is why I immediately picked back up Summoner when the feature was added in HW to do so. And then I molded my entire identity around Carbuncle but we won’t talk about that. But instead it’s been decided by people who want to be “epic” and summon the primals themselves.

[LauraAdalena]

They still haven’t even acknowledged it in the system part of the patch notes.

[rewd]

To be fair, though, in previous games, Carbuncle as a summon was always a purely defensive spell. I never played XI, so that might be an outlier, but in VI, VIII, and IX it just provided defensive buffs.

It did attack in FF11.

Anyway, black mages never used ice spells to regain MP either. Can we put the "But in previous FF games .." argument to rest forever?

[wereotter]

It did attack in FF11.

Anyway, black mages never used ice spells to regain MP either. Can we put the "But in previous FF games .." argument to rest forever?

Certain things in games have identities. Carbuncle has almost always been a defensive buff spell with no damage attached to it. So this current carbuncle is a more faithful adaptation of the spell. Having carbuncle deal damage felt like it made about as much sense as changing Ifrit to being a party heal.

So no, I'm not going to stop basing the identity of characters and effects on previous games.

[Shuuli]

It did attack in FF11.

Anyway, black mages never used ice spells to regain MP either. Can we put the "But in previous FF games .." argument to rest forever?

I wish more people thought like this. The game and this full role would be at a so much healthier position right now...

I havent played any other FF games before. I started as a summoner because the description of the job appealed to me with this: "arcanists are also able to summon forth the familiar known as Carbuncle to carry out their bidding" - literal pet job.

So when people say jobs have identity... literally waduheck?

In any case, in previous patches the carbuncle did deal dmg, so I double do not understand their argument.

[aveyond-dreams]

Here is a list of all potential Carbuncle abilities from FFXI. Do with it as you wish, and yes as this is *checks notes* a mainline Final Fantasy game logic easily follows that it can and should pay respect to the source material it uses from other games:

https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Carbuncle

[rewd]

Certain things in games have identities. Carbuncle has almost always been a defensive buff spell with no damage attached to it. So this current carbuncle is a more faithful adaptation of the spell. Having carbuncle deal damage felt like it made about as much sense as changing Ifrit to being a party heal.

So no, I'm not going to stop basing the identity of characters and effects on previous games.

Yawn. "Certain things in games have identities" just means "The game can arbitrarily take liberties when it comes to something I don't care about". Classic vague and meaningless statement.

Good, then. We can glamour Carbuncle, so let my Ifrit-Egi attack instead.

[Jkap_Goat]

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Carbuncle_(Avatar)


I mean FFXI Carbuncle can also heal the party too

and yes I play FFXI

WAR/DNC Mithra on Asura server

FFXI summoners also has alot of Advatars ( Primals) to use, and also can use Caith Sith which can use Reraise

[YinFangXXV]

If they could take Physic off SMN and give Carbuncle the ability to cast a minor heal between summons/phases that would be neat. I agree it feels weird to have Carbuncle out because he just kinda vibes there unless you want one of those small shields then he just goes back to vibing since you cannot shield others.
As for the summon glams I WISH They gave us alternate sets of summons to glam over them like Ifrit glam to Shiva, Garuda glam into Leviathan, Titan glam to Ramuh. Just something to give lil more options. Personally I would also love to be able to summon like Alexandar over Bahamut and Diabolos over Pheonix or some other options.