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    Okay, I was holding my opinion until I had actually tried the new ability effects in content.

    And this is totally subjective, but I want the devs to hear it: I hate these changes. Having a raid-wide damage buff after a complex mudra combo felt really good. Pressing an ogcd every 2 minutes is comparatively joyless. Yes, I still get to do the trick attack combo, but since it is now just a personal damage buff a little bit of the fun has been removed. I don't know what this change was meant to improve, but I don't like how it alters the feel of the job.

    Maybe I'm alone in this, but... Ninja players enjoy doing their biggest attacks/effects after performing mudras, right? That's the appeal of the class, that you don't just push one button and get a spell?
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    Last edited by AoifeAogane; 04-16-2022 at 11:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AoifeAogane View Post
    Okay, I was holding my opinion until I had actually tried the new ability effects in content.

    And this is totally subjective, but I want the devs to hear it: I hate these changes. Having a raid-wide damage buff after a complex mudra combo felt really good. Pressing an ogcd every 2 minutes is comparatively joyless. Yes, I still get to do the trick attack combo, but since it is now just a personal damage buff a little bit of the fun has been removed. I don't know what this change was meant to improve, but I don't like how it alters the feel of the job.
    Even just everything else I've said aside about how boring mechanically Mug is compared to Brotherhood and Arcane Circle as well as DRG's buffs.
    On a visual level it's just barely noticeable.
    For TA you've got Suiton which is a big water splash then a flashy spinning double stab, Mug feels like one of those old ARR skills like Fracture for Marauder.
    It looks and feels so weak and underwhelming it has no real impact at all.

    It's just sad how NIN went to having the dullest utility buff in like every aspect.
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    It went from, "Ten-Chi-Jin-SPLASH-STAB!!!!!!!" to "Oh... mug is up again." *click*
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    Quote Originally Posted by AoifeAogane View Post
    It went from, "Ten-Chi-Jin-SPLASH-STAB!!!!!!!" to "Oh... mug is up again." *click*
    Welcome to every other melee in the game.
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    Maybe it's because my two main jobs are Ninja and Scholar so this update seems surgically devised to irk me. I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AoifeAogane View Post
    Maybe it's because my two main jobs are Ninja and Scholar so this update seems surgically devised to irk me. I don't know.
    I play Bard and Sam the most and was in the process of getting ninja up to their level
    Life is suffering
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    There there. Have some cocoa and a blanket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AoifeAogane View Post
    Maybe it's because my two main jobs are Ninja and Scholar so this update seems surgically devised to irk me. I don't know.
    Imagine being an Arcanist main pre 6.0 and seeing the Summoner rework for what it was when it was revealed and getting gaslit til launch, which revealed they fixed ranged pets via the fairy tune up, then looking at Bard (my go to secondary DPS), and seeing Repertoire DoTs completely gutted.

    Ninja was supposed to be the one they didn’t touch past 6.0 Raijus. And I did pick it to be a TA burst bot and have easier uptime with RPR/BLM/RDM.

    As is, finishing clears and unsubbing till 6.2 breaks something else is the plan.
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    As a GNB the change to trick attack is pretty sad. It used to line up with my highest damage no mercy window, and now my three minute window doesn't have the potential to be buffed by ninjas. Bloodfest feels just a little bit worse, I'll miss trick attack.
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    Might be a bit off-topic, but with the new ishgard housing being a massive failure by all accounts, I feel confident in asserting that the ninja devs did not playtest ninja or any other jobs. While I'm aware that housing is likely ran by a different department, the fact they didn't playtest a simple random number generator is shocking. Both the recent job changes and housing changes seems be a damning indication that the QA department for ffxiv are either very incompetent, or had their budget and resources decreased. Since when was square enix owned by EA?
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