Trick Attack

[RyuDragnier]

This is one hill I'm willing to die on when it comes to squares decision. I 100% disagree that all jobs should be easy enough and accessible to all players. There should be varying difficulties for jobs ranging from easier to harder so they can actually appeal to the majority of their players. I can by no means play black mage or monks perfectly but the fact that there is a imo a very difficult job in the game adds to my enjoyment rather than detracts.

Luckily they are not removing anything from Ninja, just moving the raidwide buff from TA to Mug. Meaning the entirety of the kit is still there.

As far as I'm concerned, changing trick to what they are proposing is gutting the kit. I know square wants to bring all the Melee dps in line and homogenise everything like they have with the Healers, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I will screech as much as possible in the hopes they will listen to feedback. I love this job, in its current state. I love trick. I will try my damndest to stop it from happening, even if I know its fruitless.

No, this is not gutting, this will never be gutting. You want to know what real gutting looks like? DRK going from HW to SB lost their second attack combo (the original Delirium). They lost their DoT (Scourge). Reprisal and Low Blow were removed from DRK and made role skills, and Dark Dance was removed from DRK to be made into a role action skill that was removed from the game in ShB. Those are off the top of my head. Do not EVER call moving the raidwide buff to Mug gutting the kit, that is nothing more than changing where on your skills the buff is.

[aloneatsea]

Luckily they are not removing anything from Ninja, just moving the raidwide buff from TA to Mug. Meaning the entirety of the kit is still there.

It isn't though? Moving from a 1min buff to a 2min buff is a huge change, and homogeanizes the job. A part of my kit that I enjoy -- the 1 minute party buff -- is going away. Hence, my dissatisfaction with the changes.

[Kazimere]

It isn't though? Moving from a 1min buff to a 2min buff is a huge change, and homogeanizes the job. A part of my kit that I enjoy -- the 1 minute party buff -- is going away. Hence, my dissatisfaction with the changes.

What’s being homogenized? The raid buff timing? Big deal. It’s play style is still unique among the DPS. Very unique, actually.

I swear, these buzz words and straw men are so exhausting.

[Manofpassion]

What’s being homogenized? The raid buff timing? Big deal. It’s play style is still unique among the DPS. Very unique, actually.

I swear, these buzz words and straw men are so exhausting.

“Hey, we don't like how you're making our unique raidbuff into 2 minutes like everything else”

“Lmao big deal, cope"

Truly a big brained take. If people play Ninja just because they like inputting pin codes to do their mudras, and that's what draw people in, i will be very surprised. Remembering a combination code is hardly engaging dps gameplay. This isn't like street fighter where we have to do a 20 hit combo, we're pressing 3 buttons at most. I'm actually pretty sure this guy is a troll. Either that or a professional square bootlicker

[Kazimere]

“Hey, we don't like how you're making our unique raidbuff into 2 minutes like everything else”

“Lmao big deal, cope"

Truly a big brained take. If people play Ninja just because they like inputting pin codes to do their mudras, and that's what draw people in, i will be very surprised. Remembering a combination code is hardly engaging dps gameplay. This isn't like street fighter where we have to do a 20 hit combo, we're pressing 3 buttons at most. I'm actually pretty sure this guy is a troll. Either that or a professional square bootlicker

Remembering to use TA ever minute is hardly engaging gameplay either. Is TA going away entirely? No, it is not. So please, tell me how you are losing your ability to buff the party, since your whole argument seems to be centered around your enjoyment from buffing the party.

[Manofpassion]

We get it, buffs bad. Enjoying things is bad. Personal dps is good. Enjoying having a unique minute long buff is wrongthink. Benefitting the party in unique odd minute bursts is bad. Yoshida knows best. Boring balance good.

[Manofpassion]

Luckily they are not removing anything from Ninja, just moving the raidwide buff from TA to Mug. Meaning the entirety of the kit is still there.


No, this is not gutting, this will never be gutting. You want to know what real gutting looks like? DRK going from HW to SB lost their second attack combo (the original Delirium). They lost their DoT (Scourge). Reprisal and Low Blow were removed from DRK and made role skills, and Dark Dance was removed from DRK to be made into a role action skill that was removed from the game in ShB. Those are off the top of my head. Do not EVER call moving the raidwide buff to Mug gutting the kit, that is nothing more than changing where on your skills the buff is.

Nah, I think I'll keep calling it what it is. Just because drk had it worse doesn't mean ninja isn't being screwed over. Too bad for drk players, but I really don't care