Stop complaining. You wanted this.

[SanadaX]

6.1 isn't even here and the salt is coming in droves. Clicking the placard was horrible it was. For us homeowners that got past it. Congrats boys we now get to watch them complain about the lottery system. I have seen a number of threads begging for a lottery system and now they have given it to you and you still complain. This is exactly what you wanted. Real housing OGs know that simply clicking buy was the best shit in the world. We could have begged to have gone back to that but instead you wanted lottery. Well when 6.1 drops you'll have it. Good luck. Odds are you'll win the cactpot before you win a house. inb4 someone says clicking the placard was better.

[Eraden]

Sorry to burst your bubble but I still support the Lottery. I know full well that my odds of getting a house are pretty grim but we ALL have the same odds. What those of us who wanted the Lottery, was a fair system. The Lottery is it. I have no complaints about that. Where I DO have complaints is simply the sheer paucity of plots. That has nothing to do with the Lottery. It has everything to do with SE not wanting to pony up more resources to create more supply.

[Valfreyja]

Technically, only Personal Houses were "everyone has the same odds".

For Free Companies, it is nothing like that.

Large Free Companies with a lot of wealth can stack the odds in their favor with the lottery system as it is.
It's painfully easy for a large free company to raise millions of gil. And they can have dozens of bids on a Small FC plot, stacking the odds in their favor.

While it's not as common, the same can be done for Medium or Large plots as well.

I should know. I fixed up a spreadsheet and tracked the Large plots twice this past week. First on Wednesday, and then after marking off all those with 7+ bids, I went back on Friday.

I identified the remaining plots with only 1-bid on each. I found the plot among those with the least bids across all wards.
I found the ward with the least overall bids with that plot.

I bid on that plot 4 times and nobody else bid after me. My four 47.5 million gil bids vs the single bid that was placed down first.

And I won it. Was it fair? Not really. The odds were 80% in my favor because it was 4-to-1.

People simply don't realize that supply isn't all that easy.

[Wolfenrir]

Technically, only Personal Houses were "everyone has the same odds".

For Free Companies, it is nothing like that.

Large Free Companies with a lot of wealth can stack the odds in their favor with the lottery system as it is.
It's painfully easy for a large free company to raise millions of gil. And they can have dozens of bids on a Small FC plot, stacking the odds in their favor.

While it's not as common, the same can be done for Medium or Large plots as well.

I should know. I fixed up a spreadsheet and tracked the Large plots twice this past week. First on Wednesday, and then after marking off all those with 7+ bids, I went back on Friday.

I identified the remaining plots with only 1-bid on each. I found the plot among those with the least bids across all wards.
I found the ward with the least overall bids with that plot.

I bid on that plot 4 times and nobody else bid after me. My four 47.5 million gil bids vs the single bid that was placed down first.

And I won it. Was it fair? Not really. The odds were 80% in my favor because it was 4-to-1.

People simply don't realize that supply isn't all that easy.

Wait, you could actually bid multiple times for the same house?

Edit: Nvm you and your fc did it, I get it now, my bad.

[Mihari]

Wait, you could actually bid multiple times for the same house?

Yes, for FCs.

Multiple FC members can bid on the same and also different houses. If the FC won several houses, they have to decide for one. Therefore, chances for bigger FCs are much more higher.

[Lemuel81]

Sorry to burst your bubble but I still support the Lottery. I know full well that my odds of getting a house are pretty grim but we ALL have the same odds. What those of us who wanted the Lottery, was a fair system. The Lottery is it. I have no complaints about that. Where I DO have complaints is simply the sheer paucity of plots. That has nothing to do with the Lottery. It has everything to do with SE not wanting to pony up more resources to create more supply.

At its core this is the problem. From the very start SE was always limited by there resources to provide enough housing for much of the player base. Its also why inventory space and a glamour system is lackluster. ( least we got something after what 9 years..Should be like the WoW transmog system imo)

[Divinemights]

6.1 isn't even here and the salt is coming in droves. Clicking the placard was horrible it was. For us homeowners that got past it. Congrats boys we now get to watch them complain about the lottery system. I have seen a number of threads begging for a lottery system and now they have given it to you and you still complain. This is exactly what you wanted. Real housing OGs know that simply clicking buy was the best shit in the world. We could have begged to have gone back to that but instead you wanted lottery. Well when 6.1 drops you'll have it. Good luck. Odds are you'll win the cactpot before you win a house. inb4 someone says clicking the placard was better.

Oh, they definitely are going to complain.
I got my Diet Coke and popcorn ready for 5th day after patch 6.1 and will be enjoy river of tears created by these lottery zealots

[Jagick]

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[Jirah]

I will literally never take anyone seriously that says “Stop complaining” Unironically. Frustrating that people desire honeyed words and endless and unjust praise than concern and critique.

[MistyMew]

I own a house.

I do not support clicking for days for a miniscule chance
I do not support a lottery for an even more miniscule chance
I do not support acquisition depending on the fastest log in...
I do not support excuses

I do support if SE stepped up and designed a system that allows ALL to own a home after YEARS of letting so many players down.

I do support vastly expanding instanced housing (apartment as a guide and template) to allow for instanced interior home sizes of S, M, L + possibly XL with NO DEMOLITION + larger item limits, indoor sunroom for gardens etc

Time to stop punishing/disagreeing with each other and start insisting SE implements the fix.