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  1. #71
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    It gets worse folks, in recent days I've seen tanks with V's on them but even more scary they've started on the vowels, some have been spotted with the letter O as well....... If the aggressors don't stop using letters from a language they don't use we will all be stuck with grunting and pointing before long.
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  2. #72
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    Absolutely not. Changing it just gives them more power over us. No thanks.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    At the end of the day I really wouldn't care if they changed it, but I feel now more than ever that they need to focus on things the game desperately needs and not hollow gestures of solidarity. But I do understand the appeal currently. The letter has taken on another meaning lately. I'm surprised something hasn't been said by now officially.
    Wow Troll Much?
    Saying it doesn't matter when people in game are literally supporting real life genocide? The only question is what type of troll you are
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Wow Troll Much?
    Saying it doesn't matter when people in game are literally supporting real life genocide? The only question is what type of troll you are
    If this is ACTUALLY the case and you have proof of such, report them. You don't need to take away a title from the entire populace of the game for a ridiculously small portion of griefers.

    Learn to internet, develop a backbone.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    If this is ACTUALLY the case and you have proof of such, report them. You don't need to take away a title from the entire populace of the game for a ridiculously small portion of griefers.

    Learn to internet, develop a backbone.
    Asking the FFXIV playerbase to develop a backbone is like asking for the Earth to stop its slow descent into decay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
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    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

  6. #76
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    I'm still rockin' my blue & yellow glam every day, and anybody who's mad about that can remember "it's just colours, it doesn't mean anything in Eorzea!"

    Anyway, I'm not sure this "Z" title is worth changing at this point, for three main reasons:

    1) I don't think the "pro Putin" coded usage of the symbol has attained enough universal recognition, at least not to the point that I'd see somebody in FFXIV with a "Z" title and think that they're trying to promote the invasion of Ukraine.

    2) It remains to be seen if the usage of "Z" for this purpose will remain a lasting thing.

    3) Honestly, I'm not sure if I've EVER seen another FFXIV player using the "Z" title. Maybe once a long time ago??
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  7. #77
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    they probably will never remove the Z title, in the japanese client it displays as "the Zeta" so the best they'd probably do is make it the same as JP if they're ever (unlikely) going to change it and it's fine as it is imo as it has no relation to anything/what so ever irl
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemiz View Post
    The letter Z isn't even part of the Russian alphabet, so what the op is asking for is to remove a squiggly line that looks a bit like a letter from a completely different language. If someone is so far past the "sticks and stones" principle and is actively calling for random shapes to be banned then I can safely say it's ok to ignore them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artemiz View Post
    It gets worse folks, in recent days I've seen tanks with V's on them but even more scary they've started on the vowels, some have been spotted with the letter O as well....... If the aggressors don't stop using letters from a language they don't use we will all be stuck with grunting and pointing before long.

    I mean it most likely refers to "Zapad" which is the romanization of West in Russian with "V" being "Vostock" for East, so they do have meaning however the title Z in ffxiv doesn't share that meaning. obviously.
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    Last edited by Mosha; 04-06-2022 at 08:19 PM.

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    What the heck are we talking about here?

    What is the "Z title" and why is it controversial?
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    Adorable creatures with unacceptable features!

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    quickly pointing out that the Swastika and SS bolts were political symbols that became Tactical/IFF markings were as "Z" started as part of a group of Tactical/IFF makings that have become political symbols in Russia. kind of important to point that distinction out.
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