Hissatsu: Kaiten

[GrumbleBeard]

If looking cool is all that mattered, we'd still have Power Slash and Grenado Shot and a bunch of other cool lookin' skills.

So many great looking abilities left for dead. I loved all of drks finishers except souleater. Why is the ugliest ability the one we have to spam?

[Vandry]

Just chiming in to say removing Kaiten definitely sucks and hoping they revert the change based on negative feedback.

[Asari5]

dont play samurai often... but its a fun skill, it adds impact snd therefor fun. pls dont remove it

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Kaiten stopped mattering once we lost midare only for it to be added back as a new skill. SAM in 6.0 is far worse to me than 5.x, I hate the flow of it, all the casts, and the aoes getting their own skill instead of damage falloff.

Removing kaiten actually helps the flow for me just based on skill placement on my hotbars, but does nothing for the other added bloat.

[Rayne6665]

Is anyone else disappointed that this action is being removed? Im not a numbers person, nor do I understand what changes are good/ bad for a job, but Hissatsu: Kaiten looks really cool... I mean it looks super cool

And that has to count for something, right?!

As a Samurai main myself, i too will miss that skill. Spinning that sword in a flip of a wrist lol

[Minarisweet]

If you want to play something braindead easy, you already have a bunch of options. No reason why everything has to be simplified and dumbed down to chimp level of complexity. Sadly, Yoshi P seems dead bent on making everything streamlined, easymode and boring beyond comprehension (under the excuse and myth of "button bloat" which a lot of people seem to accept without question). WoW did the exact same thing and it didn't work. Why does Yoshi P think it'll work here? Easy classes are boring for a lot of people, and by removing complexity you're also removing skill expression and sense of accomplishment when mastering a class.

You can have easy classes, medium difficulty classes and hard ones. There's no mutual exclusiveness here. Thinking in absolutes is the same as having a tunnelvision preventing you from seeing the larger picture.

The sad thing is that it does work here since the game is heavily designed for people that have no desire to spend any time in gaming yet still fulfill their mmorpg fantasies via mmorpg simulator xiv, and the raiders that for some reason want it easier and easier to parse.

[rewd]

Samurai is probably the DPS I like the least and even I will agree that losing Kaiten is a shame. It felt good to use and contributed to class fantasy.

Button bloat is just an excuse, because as people have already said there are several buttons they should have deleted/merged.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Ya’all don’t like flipping your Katana?

I certainly do

[Aelin_Ashryver]

It's a favourite part of the job for me, really makes the skills pack more oomf having that wind up and helped keep a busy feeling. Hope they reconsider and fix shoha 2 etc instead...

[Kadyr]

Wanted to add my two cents as well, please don't remove Hissatsu: Kaiten! It's a satisfying ability that feels incredible to use. A great way to manage our kenki, the awesome animation, and it filled in the gap between finishing the sen gauge into using Iaijutsu. All around it's a very satisfying and necessary ability.