New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[Rathmir]

And that only the additional stuff. Even with just unlocking the standard hair styles for all gives a lot more variety of expression. Letting one look smug, ruffled, playful and so on. SUre, some combination look odd, but mostly only because unused to. But most styles work with all faces with just minor tweaks.

If clipping is the major issue, then many armor pieces and weapons on back shouldn't be allowed, as all try to chop the tail off.

And I aknow some people who deny to play hroth, just because of the lack of choices and everything behind. So much to "Only 3%".

[juicybug]

We shouldn't be asking to begin with. Let that sink in.

And then what? We ask for new stuff... But then what? Expect the quality to be any better? Given the little we've had given to Hrothgars, there isn't much trust going around.

Heck, we do have new hairstyles, just look at Zlatan. His ears aren't covered. And I don't even think any Hrothgar player asked for these save the Pulse headgear. I remember Hrothgars asking for the Wind Caller hair. Most Hrothgar players actually did temper their expectations. We know our facial structure doesn't lend itself well to a few options, which is why they've set their eyes on Pulse and Wind Caller to begin with. Yoshida himself said that not every hairstyle fits Hrothgars, so we'd get something different. So why force these onto us?

Besides, you say all that. But one thing you're not thinking of is that eventually Square will implement new hairstyles like the 2B and 9S in the future. Most races will be able to use them, with no guarantee for Hrothgars or Vieras. And then what? Do those not count as "new"?

Sidenote: Even in Hairstyle threads rando people often derail the entire thing with memes and hate against anything they don't agree with, like if someone asks for long hairstyles and don't care about clipping you have 10 people saying no to opinions and ideas. Megathreads are sometimes seen by devs but even if it has 12k views but only 113 posts so it will never get anywhere.
if someone just took a minute to type +1 to new hairstyles in hair megathreads or an image of something they like rather than complain about other players' tastes it might have a chance to be seen by the person who could make new hairs.

I agree with you- we shouldn't have to ASK for aesthetics and this type of content, it should be a given- but unfortunately, the repeat hairstyles, adolescent pigtails- and main hero mullets are what we are supposed to be okay with for 10+ years I guess.

[Jason_Ashford]

To be ultra fair, every single new hairstyle made in this game allows for miqote, au ra, and now viera ears/horns. This isn't an old thing, I think that's a stretch at best.

it's unacceptable that they are being this lazy with Hrothgar. i honestly never thought i'd see the day where i would feel nothing but pure disappointment in Yoshi-P and the 14 devs for choosing to be lazy and acting like this wasnt going to blow up in their faces

[juicybug]

Horrible, disgusting. Are there guys who wear style like this?Never seen one personally

i mean have you seen yoshi-p's teased and caramel dyed manager hair?

[HeyMcFly]

I think it depends really. As you said, this isn't new from the dev team, but when it comes to designing races it's for sure the worst they've gotten. It's as I said just four days ago actually: SE isn't a bad company, nor is FF14 a bad game. Under any stretch. And were it any other company, we really would feel like this would be the least that came out of it. It's just that we have so much of the community supporting their decisions, how much people tend to settle for superficial content and how used we are to a certain quality standard. So when something like this happens, (and I reiterate: after 3-ish years of virtually nothing, barely even new designs or addressing issues with Hrothgars + the fact we need to pay real money to change a hairstyle), people get outraged.

Because we did get pissed at Square when they threw out content people weren't on board with. You have Diadem, the initial Eureka areas and Blue Mage as good examples. But those have always been excused or brushed away. People warmed up to them. And even their excuse when Hrothgar and Viera were released. It deterred some people but also had a lot of people just shrug them off with hope that they'd reconsider. I know for sure I was one, and every group I've been in since had Hrothgars thinking the same. But this breaks that mold. It looks ugly, it looks poor and it looks like there's a lack of effort. And I don't think people will warm up to this anytime soon. Because unlike BLU or Eureka, there isn't much they can do to make this look any better. And after all the wait, expectation and endurance those players had to go through for this? A lot of players feel upset and as if they'll never get anything that looks as good as other races. It's the first time the let-down has struck that many people, and the preview images look like they're memes rather than anything official. Not even the announcement of Limited Jobs was this disappointing.

You hit the nail on the head- and from the beginning specifically, when viera/ hroth were released people were cautious on how truthful the statements that unique hairs would be added and those folks ended up being right to a large degree- I remember the almost "doomsday content" threads, which specifically talked about the decline in content and quality (some were quite dramatic). At the time, it was blamed on Yoshi-P working on a different final fantasy, then it was blamed on the FF7 remake so I wonder what it will be this time.

I sincerely hope that there are actual race specific/ viera and hrothgar unique hairstyles still waiting to be revealed and that Yoshi-P didn't actually think we'd be happy with what we were shown

[Yencat]

It was a cynical jest, many of us are used to be being burned like this- you either get burned or hate the result you are given (like housing for example)

I think saying they were hard at work for 3 years in secrecy is giving them too much credit unless we have yet to see more.
But from the examples we do have, I'd say atleast 3 months on and off at work lol

I was also being sarcastic. My point is that it doesn't matter what players ask for, if it's not in their plan it's not happening. Even taking aside Viera they had a lot of time to make new hair for Hrothgar if that's what they wanted to do, but they didn't and by their more recent admission didn't intend to either.

Plenty of people have been burned before but I don't think I've ever seen it backfire this badly where some people are genuinely confused if it's an April fools joke or not.

[Jason_Ashford]

You hit the nail on the head- and from the beginning specifically, when viera/ hroth were released people were cautious on how truthful the statements that unique hairs would be added and those folks ended up being right to a large degree- I remember the almost "doomsday content" threads, which specifically talked about the decline in content and quality (some were quite dramatic). At the time, it was blamed on Yoshi-P working on a different final fantasy, then it was blamed on the FF7 remake so I wonder what it will be this time.

I sincerely hope that there are actual race specific/ viera and hrothgar unique hairstyles still waiting to be revealed and that Yoshi-P didn't actually think we'd be happy with what we were shown

Im praying for this because i can honestly say that if they actually push these "hairstyles" into the live game, i'm giving up on Hrothgar and switching to a different race. I've waited almost 3 years for them to do what they promised. this is not it, and if they don't address this by 6.1's launch date, i'm just going to write off the race and move on.

[Berret_Snow]

Wow they look nasty and unfinished. Don't know why they just don't just pay the modders, they've made really good Hrothgar hair that actually has ears.

[Jason_Ashford]

Wow they look nasty and unfinished. Don't know why they just don't just pay the modders, they've made really good Hrothgar hair that actually has ears.

i've said this, probably close to a dozen times, if not more, today. The modders already did 95% of the work for them. they could easily just pay them to finish it

[Roda]

Man, the headshapes on the hair are wrong too.

They really didn't touch them up at all outside of maybe upscaling them to be bigger than the head...