New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[XiRon]

Something like Hien's hairstyle will look really good on Hrothgar I reckon. Instead, earless 2B.

I know a lot of hrothgar who use black internet sorcery want longer, more "wild" styles and hiens fits the bill.
Since they finally added Lyses hair for women they might add Hiens in 6.2x, and since they didnt screw female viera over, we might actually get it (mviera will ofc get all new nongenderlocked to women styles).
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[XiRon]

It's a shame that Square Memex can no longer develop hats for all races in a decent way. Meanwhile, I learned here on the forum that it took them a month to make the face of Hydaelyn, a character they said would end in this expansion...

god that blows they coulda just reused Cosmos from Dissidia.

[Wanzzo]

Something like Hien's hairstyle will look really good on Hrothgar I reckon. Instead, earless 2B.

Hien, M'naggo, Gosetsu and some unique to make them look more feral, like bold samurais or even like big and strong vikings would be awesome!

These "emo-jp" without ears are more like a joke than anything.
I remember people that thought that maybe the annoucement of the earless models was because 1st April's Fool xD
We don't even need to wonder why... u.u

[Denji]

Hien, M'naggo, Gosetsu and some unique to make them look more feral, like bold samurais or even like big and strong vikings would be awesome!

These "emo-jp" without ears are more like a joke than anything.
I remember people that thought that maybe the annoucement of the earless models was because 1st April's Fool xD
We don't even need to wonder why... u.u

barely emo. just karen and honestly probably the only ones that worked without (almost) no bald spots with little to no modification or effort on their part.

[DynnDiablos]

For me the no ears thing for Hrothgar was just pure laziness. The race has been treated like crap since Day One. What's interesting is it seems Male Viera have been given way more attention to detail and quality even moreso than female viera and hrothgar. It doesn't bode well for female hrothgar in 7.0...unless hrothgar as a race in general are getting a completely updated framework.

[Midareyukki]

For me the no ears thing for Hrothgar was just pure laziness. The race has been treated like crap since Day One. What's interesting is it seems Male Viera have been given way more attention to detail and quality even moreso than female viera and hrothgar. It doesn't bode well for female hrothgar in 7.0...unless hrothgar as a race in general are getting a completely updated framework.

Well, we know they're updating the races a bit in terms of texture. So if there's any better moment to clean up their system, it's there. Because the framework we have for Hrothgars, while shoddy on its own, is just a repeat of already-shoddy systems in place for other races. Just peruse their files and you'll see loose ends everywhere.

Of course, that's no guarantee, and odds are they won't give any care there either.

I'm just waiting on the next moron to say we're the reason the game has flaws, because we "wasted dev time". You know, the same way they waste their time kissing the dev team's butt.

[SturmChurro]

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Doing them as they did probably was wasted dev time unfortunately. Quality has gone down quite a bit. I don't think it was the right time for those races. The whole "last chance" thing really compromised the implementation.

No, before some argument... The races are in the game now, they need to figure out a way to streamline updates. Hopefully it does come soon.. for all races. If everything is easier to implement then maybe more resources will be freed for viera/hrothgar.

[Midareyukki]

Doing them as they did probably was wasted dev time unfortunately. Quality has gone down quite a bit. I don't think it was the right time for those races. The whole "last chance" thing really compromised the implementation.

No, before some argument... The races are in the game now, they need to figure out a way to streamline updates. Hopefully it does come soon.. for all races. If everything is easier to implement then maybe more resources will be freed for viera/hrothgar.

I won't argue, but I will clarify something.

Yoshida said they use Agile Software Development. In broad terms it's about "adaptive planning, evolutionary development, continual improvement, and flexible responses to changes in requirements, capacity, and understanding of the problems to be solved". In "words people speak", you divide the project in Sprints. Before each Sprint, you define your entire scope, what resources will be allocated to it, how much time to do it and the tasks (further Sprints) until completion. Meaning that before anything even starts, there's a big ol' meeting where they define what to do. If anything happens, they can adjust. They work on the software up to a defined goal, and present it for approval. Usually about a week's worth of work. So on until the final Sprint is done and the final thing is shipped. Meaning at every point, they present their work, which is looked at and approved to continue. If anything isn't approved, then the Sprint isn't finalized.

This is good because, back to the usual broad terms, it allows you to plan ahead and get some leeway to adapt, so that if anything comes up at any given point, you're still early on into the project to solve it. If there are actual roadblocks that go beyond what was discussed, that's when you can say "Okay, this goes against what was established beforehand", upon which someone WILL be slapped for guaranteeing something they couldn't, and you reassess the plan.

Our inclusion was planned and agreed upon, like all else.

If quality has gone down, it's not because of the content, but rather the lack of adjustments required to do the task. You can't blame the content for being "wasteful". The devs agreed to do this, they should have planned accordingly. They wasted as much time as any given content would, and should have adapted to the task's size.

If there is a waste, it's on resources. They're low on a resource somewhere, but act as if they aren't. And that goes for content beyond just these races. Races which weren't even updated during the pandemic. And quality doesn't die just over two races. Races which are in the game now:
1 - The bulk of the work HAS been finalized, everything else is side work
2 - Sprints should try to meet the new reality. And they haven't. Either they need to pause Hrothgar and Viera and flush out whatever else is left, and if quality dips there it's further evidence it's NOT our faults... OR they need to finish these races and wait on content.

And quality dipped even when they weren't working on these races. All Hrothgars had were ported hairstyles with low effort. How did that get in the way of Housing and DC Travel quality assurance?

You know. When they have more time to do stuff between patches. I think people collectively erased that from memory...

TLDR: It really isn't a waste, because even if something had gone awry, it's in the nature of the way they do software to pour resources for Sprints. It happens on every piece of content they make.

Addendum: corrections in the post below

[Raikai]

You know. When they have more time to do stuff between patches. I think people collectively erased that from memory...

But they really have more time in between patches? I honestly thought that is the busiest, since they have to deliver stuff for the next patch(es) and work on stuff for the next expansion. Truth be told, as much as we got 2-3 extra weeks between patches now, I still feel they deliver new content in a rather decent pace, compared to WoW, for example (sorry, it's the only thing in my experience that I can compare to).

[Midareyukki]

But they really have more time in between patches? I honestly thought that is the busiest, since they have to deliver stuff for the next patch(es) and work on stuff for the next expansion. Truth be told, as much as we got 2-3 extra weeks between patches now, I still feel they deliver new content in a rather decent pace, compared to WoW, for example (sorry, it's the only thing in my experience that I can compare to).

They literally have more months between patches. It was announced early on in Endwalker that we would have longer periods between major patches. They announced this directly and officially.

They do deliver content at a decent pace, and they honestly... I feel always, taking away the pandemic, have delivered quite hefty chunks of content. Despite what other people say about "there not being much to do in the game". And I'm not familiar with WoW, but I do agree that FF14 does do a lot per patch. They also don't update the game as often as other MMOs, so it's a good compromise. Patches are done regularly and with large time intervals between. WoW might not do as much per patch, but they release patches quite often. That was what I was told by people who did play WoW, at least. Whether the cummulative work is higher or lower, I couldn't tell you, but that's still besides the point.

They do have more time on their hands. And though the development team is diminished to work on FF16, we were assured that it wouldn't interfere with FF14's development. I know that can just be discarded with "corporate lying", obviously, but that's a whole nother can of worms. So a brief answer?

YES.

Now the reason they're failing might be due to other factors. Not just time. But you really can't say that Hrothgar hairstyles got in the way of anything, when quality dipped for patches well beyond the Hairstyles themselves, and the work was rushed. At least not on a time-based scale.


EDIT:

Corrections from someone who read my post and actually understands videogame development far better than I do:

Only thing that's inacurate is that if the task is unfinished, the sprint is still completed. The sprint is each iteration of development time. It's just the task that has to be dealt with, for example adapting what it is or moving it to be completed on a different sprint
Oh and "Sprint" specifically is for the SCRUM method (which is still Agile, jsut a specific method of Agile, the general term is iteration).