New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[Midareyukki]

It would really be nice if we could be spoken to instead of just the rambles of some lalafell DPS giving us conflicting information.

Oof. Careful, you'll upset some people xD Then again, it wouldn't be the OF's if people didn't freak out because we weren't nice to the devs.

The threads going around asking him to change to X race and Y class just shows how much people want the devs to really put some weight into the whole "we play the game too" quip. Because he sure as hell was quick to say that about World of Warcraft, but all I've seen him do was use his Lalafell. And the other races have a lot more issues to them that haven't been addressed. Less talk and more effort, please. Words alone have carried you thus far, but now it's actions that need to be taken. This isn't us being mean. This is us changing what we want to see from the dev team. We've congratulated the dev team thus far, but now we have reasons to criticise and not do that anymore. And we do like the dev team and support them in their future endeavours. But being supportive doesn't excuse them from hearing it when they need to.

snippy

Everything about this. In general, their attitude toward the playerbase needs to be clearer. Those half-answers only work for one audience. They don't work for other cultures, and if you're serious about having those interpreters there, then speak globally, not locally.

Because the poor treatment for 3 years, the lack of content, the conscientious decision of not giving us stuff even from events, the feigned ignorance when they explained why they couldn't do stuff for us and Viera and have damaged the races. The reason for them being unpopular is in part their fault too. We don't want more of the same "we know, we just don't care". Because if that's the case, they're no different than the guys who made 1.0. And if that's the case, why should we care either?

We've shown that we could be patient.
We've shown that we know what's going on and what can be done. We know what you have done. We even gave you guys explanations of how to do it. This information is more and more widespread now thanks to datamining and modding. As much as you hate it, this is your reality now. We know.

We've been patient and quiet. So if you kick us at our best behaviour, don't expect us to not be angry, after demanding proper justice and attention for so long. We know enough now. And that's why we don't accept this ridiculous notion that "it's too hard", not just because at its worst it isn't, but also because you're Square bloody Enix. What, we're hard to make but Red XIII wasn't? People are paid for this, and this should have been decided and organized years ago.

So I agree with Kelev's feedback. The whole thing.

Most people "complaining" are Hrothgar players or Hrothgar supporters, most people saying "it's fine" are potatoes or catgirls, with the occasional bunny boy ...I wonder who they'd listen to

Those bunny boys really need to look into a mirror. Whatever happened to "we're all on the same boat"?

[SasoriMinamino]

I don't play with Hrothgar but I'm here to support them, that was terrible, how much lack of consideration and respect, the ff characterization system is terrible, one of the worst I've ever seen and that's not lack of resource, I'd say it's just laziness, this system is rotten, and they don't fix it because everyone is getting flowers even when they fail, i could list a bunch of terrible things that need improvement, like fixing those square feet and taking off those ridiculous wooden shoes, but they always have these lazy excuses.
they can release the full races and don't have to go back to fix all their helmets, clothes and hair. a solution that would make everyone happy is to launch a race and from its expansion all equipment will be usable, you wouldn't need to use this ridiculous excuse of lack of time. the Rhothgars have been there for 3 years and have never received anything. if they did what i said today would be a "full run" how much gear and hair will we have after launch?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Do you still need a fantasia to change the hair?

[Raskbuck]

apologise for the insult done (cause that laugh that accompanied the wigs was taken as an insult by a lot of people).

I'd like to see this.

I've seen people on a different thread say that they didn't laugh when presenting those hairstyles, and that it was just a misunderstanding. I personally find concerning the length some people will go in order to protect and defend the game, to the point of invalidating other people's feelings and downplaying them.

[Midareyukki]

Do you still need a fantasia to change the hair?

Not anymore, at least not entirely.

You don't need a fantasia to change to the other hair that shares your face. Nor to the unlocked hairstyles that hide your ears.

But if you want to wear a hair from another face, you're screwed: you still need to fantasia to that face.

I'd like to see this.

I've seen people on a different thread say that they didn't laugh when presenting those hairstyles, and that it was just a misunderstanding. I personally find concerning the length some people will go in order to protect and defend the game, to the point of invalidating other people's feelings and downplaying them.

Even if it was a mistake, the low quality effort, dismissive tone they had throughout it all and the images that looked like terrible tooth paste ads...

They shouldn't have laughed. It doesn't matter the reason, it wasn't a happy occasion, and it was beyond obvious that they were memeing us at that point. Knowing that ears wouldn't be displayed only rubbed salt on an already reopened wound.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Not anymore, at least not entirely.

You don't need a fantasia to change to the other hair that shares your face. Nor to the unlocked hairstyles that hide your ears.

But if you want to wear a hair from another face, you're screwed: you still need to fantasia to that face.

That sucks was the thing that made me change back to Roe. Wasnt that bothered about headgear as I expected that but the hairstyles was a bit gutting. I even requested a beast race regardless if you can equip headgear or not lol

[Kelev]

Do you still need a fantasia to change the hair?

You can argue you don’t, because you can swap between your haircut, the facially featured one, all the new ones, and the other one for the skull

I would argue, on the otherhand that you do have to Fantasia.

If you don’t Fantasia, you have access to 10 haircuts, including the one you have.

If you do Fantasia, you have access to 12 haircuts not including the one you have, nor any of the new ones.

So you’d be more right than wrong in saying a Fantasia is still required.

[Kelev]

Knowing that ears wouldn't be displayed only rubbed salt on an already reopened wound.

And honestly, screw the ears. I don’t care if they add in one set of ears, two sets, or make the entire head out of ears.

You will still have a crappy, low-quality results.

Did you see face number 4 on any of the printouts Yoshi P showed? Wonder why?



Ears ain’t gonna fix that. That’s bi-level clipping on the horn. Clips under clips.

Whatever happened to “we can’t do that, ‘cause it might clip some.”

I’m grateful for the fact the ears got clipped ‘cause at the end people can be like “And they don’t got ears on ‘em.”

But they don’t fit the lore.
They don’t fit the style.
They still don’t stick to your head and change the skull geometry.

Are we supposed to imagine the horn is under the hair?

[Denji]

Do you still need a fantasia to change the hair?

half the facial features are locked behind other faces for no reason. like... eyebrows for some reason.

[Allegor]

Even if it was a mistake, the low quality effort, dismissive tone they had throughout it all and the images that looked like terrible tooth paste ads...

They shouldn't have laughed. It doesn't matter the reason, it wasn't a happy occasion, and it was beyond obvious that they were memeing us at that point. Knowing that ears wouldn't be displayed only rubbed salt on an already reopened wound.

It's worse because at the moment, those chuckles were the "obvious cue" it was an april fools joke. At most, some people may have taken it as some self awareness joke - "ha ha, yeh, its funny cuz we've been waiting years for this, good one guys..." - but then the LL ended and we were left with the realization that it wasn't an april fools joke and that they were trying not to laugh at pictures that we were supposed to be taking seriously, or even cheering.

It may not have been intentional, let alone malicious, but in recontextualization, those chuckles did leave a bad taste.