New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[SherlottaEryut]

I directly quoted the official Live Letter translation found in the archives in this forum

"We certainly plan on adding more, so please wait for future patches. However, it will still be race-specific, so there won’t be as many selections when compared to other races."

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...808-29-2019%29

It may be a mistranslation, or it may be that Yoshi P forgot that he made that comment, either way it points to a lack of proper communication that was left untouched for three years.

It's okay - I knew it was a direct quote... Sorry if it looked like I was trying to shit stir (Wasn't my intention at all)
Still though, I hope it's something they can bring up again..

[Pip_Chick]

I will be taking a more controversial take on this.
But if the models are so bad as to result in such a big and hard problem to tackle then I could see one of two things that could be done.
1. They could remake the Hrothgar 3D model as a whole, redesign them to work with the engine and be less of a headache to work with.
2. Rework the engine and accommodate for Hrothgar and Viera. Put people to make the code to allow these changes to be implemented.
I honestly don't think it's an impossible task since other MMOs have done it before. Nothing is impossible, you just have to put time and effort into making it work. It is almost baffling that the pay-locked races (the ones you need to pay for the base game + Shadowbringers) are the ones being so restricted.
Male Viera's are out and the team has figured out a way to add hairstyles to both Male and Female Viera. I say take them and until 6.5-7.0 work on their model and make it fully integrated (no more limitations bull). Then after they are done go and rework the Hrothgar models to fully integrate them as well (+add the females) in 7.0.

[Larirawiel]

I will be taking a more controversial take on this.
But if the models are so bad as to result in such a big and hard problem to tackle then I could see one of two things that could be done.
1. They could remake the Hrothgar 3D model as a whole, redesign them to work with the engine and be less of a headache to work with.
2. Rework the engine and accommodate for Hrothgar and Viera. Put people to make the code to allow these changes to be implemented.
I honestly don't think it's an impossible task since other MMOs have done it before. Nothing is impossible, you just have to put time and effort into making it work. It is almost baffling that the pay-locked races (the ones you need to pay for the base game + Shadowbringers) are the ones being so restricted.
Male Viera's are out and the team has figured out a way to add hairstyles to both Male and Female Viera. I say take them and until 6.5-7.0 work on their model and make it fully integrated (no more limitations bull). Then after they are done go and rework the Hrothgar models to fully integrate them as well (+add the females) in 7.0.

There are no problems with the engine or with the model. If there were some problems then the mods would not work at all. But the modders had fixes for this ear problem within a few hours.

The question comes up, why the modders can fix those problems so quickly and the game designers cannot?


Cheers

[FawkesWyznfarr]

I will be taking a more controversial take on this.
But if the models are so bad as to result in such a big and hard problem to tackle then I could see one of two things that could be done.
1. They could remake the Hrothgar 3D model as a whole, redesign them to work with the engine and be less of a headache to work with.
2. Rework the engine and accommodate for Hrothgar and Viera. Put people to make the code to allow these changes to be implemented.
I honestly don't think it's an impossible task since other MMOs have done it before. Nothing is impossible, you just have to put time and effort into making it work. It is almost baffling that the pay-locked races (the ones you need to pay for the base game + Shadowbringers) are the ones being so restricted.
Male Viera's are out and the team has figured out a way to add hairstyles to both Male and Female Viera. I say take them and until 6.5-7.0 work on their model and make it fully integrated (no more limitations bull). Then after they are done go and rework the Hrothgar models to fully integrate them as well (+add the females) in 7.0.

Time and effort are two words foreign to the dev team. Then again, the pvp update is really fun.

[Allegor]

I suppose the ears being attached to the head would explain why they're 100% static, at least Viera ears boing a bit when they jump or when there's strong wind. In a perfect world, they'd both be like Miqo'te and at least move with certain emotes

[Rathmir]

I suppose the ears being attached to the head would explain why they're 100% static, at least Viera ears boing a bit when they jump or when there's strong wind. In a perfect world, they'd both be like Miqo'te and at least move with certain emotes

It's possible to apply the reaction to wind only with parts of a mesh, and maybe how much. But here, it's personally okay to let them act all stiff around that. Too much wobbly body parts would just confuse me.


Taking your signature:

Modders care more about Viera, Hrothgar, Highlander and Roegadyn than the devs do, and probably ever will - it seems if your race is taller than 5'4 you simply don't matter.

Why even care for anything else than Au'Ra and Miqo girls, which make alone almost 33% of the endgame population? Everything else would be a waste of investment.

[HollowedDoll]

I suppose the ears being attached to the head would explain why they're 100% static, at least Viera ears boing a bit when they jump or when there's strong wind. In a perfect world, they'd both be like Miqo'te and at least move with certain emotes

Where the ears are is not a concern at all, Hrothgar just have zero bones for their ears, also kinda disagree on the anime-like miqo ear for viera, it's fine as it is.

[Denji]

Where the ears are is not a concern at all, Hrothgar just have zero bones for their ears.

can i get uhhhhhhh h h h h h h

b o n e l e s s e a r s

[HollowedDoll]

can i get uhhhhhhh h h h h h h

b o n e l e s s e a r s

To be serious it would be possible, but they'd also need to change all the animations ( at least for emotes , and maybe attack idle ) for hrothgar to include some kind of movement on the ear, since it's kinda too small to simply slap physics on it imo.

[Denji]

To be serious it would be possible, but they'd also need to change all the animations ( at least for emotes , and maybe attack idle ) for hrothgar to include some kind of movement on the ear, since it's kinda too small to simply slap physics on it imo.

I hope they figure out something soon because I'm struggling to put as much effort into the game as I used to when it just feels like the devs are neglecting so much.

Not sure if moderators can check but I've barely played since the update and I haven't bothered logging into my JP-only account since then either.

Just. Not even like, being a baby about it. Just... low morale.

Why play a game that's being ran by people not interested in putting in the bare minimum amount of effort, you know? I just feel disappointed and annoyed.

inb4 "you're upset about pixels" no i'm upset that i'm paying for a service that is not only the quality i didn't expect but i'm also being lied to about why said quality is so poor, too.