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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Esunya View Post
    I don't understand why people would rather the class be dumbed down rather than play at a lesser efficacy themselves. I am sure if you just used cards whenever you're feeling not overwhelmed and used Aspected Helios whenever you're scared you'd still be able to clear any extreme and savage content before the next major patch. Why must every goddamn class be simplified to the level where even the lowest common denominator can play close to optimally when content is already simplified to the point where you don't need to play well at all in order to clear?
    For me the problem isn't the complexity, it's the reward and design.

    AST has the same APM as in ShB, but a bulk of it has been bundled into the 2 min burst window, forcing Lightspeed to exist purely to facilitate this gameplay of break your hands every 2 minutes and then fall asleep until the next 2 min burst.

    Astrodyne is just Lucid on a stick. The 2 and 3 buffs are meaningless and barely contribute a percent or two of your dps. This in turn makes Redraw almost meaningless.

    MA is 0 complexity. You either proc lots of Lords or sucks to be you. Lady is fairly worthless. Lord is just a free Malefic.

    There is no reason Draw/Play and Crown Play/MA shouldn't be merged into one button. It doesn't increase complexity to split them.

    Complexity is great, but shouldn't you be rewarded for doing well with it? Astrodyne and MA don't reward you. They merely exist to make you press buttons but give almost nothing in return. It's poor design.
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    Victor Spoils
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    For me the problem isn't the complexity, it's the reward and design.

    AST has the same APM as in ShB, but a bulk of it has been bundled into the 2 min burst window, forcing Lightspeed to exist purely to facilitate this gameplay of break your hands every 2 minutes and then fall asleep until the next 2 min burst.

    Astrodyne is just Lucid on a stick. The 2 and 3 buffs are meaningless and barely contribute a percent or two of your dps. This in turn makes Redraw almost meaningless.

    MA is 0 complexity. You either proc lots of Lords or sucks to be you. Lady is fairly worthless. Lord is just a free Malefic.

    There is no reason Draw/Play and Crown Play/MA shouldn't be merged into one button. It doesn't increase complexity to split them.

    Complexity is great, but shouldn't you be rewarded for doing well with it? Astrodyne and MA don't reward you. They merely exist to make you press buttons but give almost nothing in return. It's poor design.
    "Look, Ma! I'm pressing buttons!" -AST
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