Please don't make overpower a circle!

[Sqwall]

After playing warrior for close to 4 years....I can say this.

This is a good change and I'm glad they finally did it. I don't really care about what makes a tank slightly different then the next. What I care about is how does the tank play with it's full kit.

Warrior - Unga Bunga, hate meter, walking meat grinder. i.e. Beast gauge and stupid self sustain tank.

Gunbreaker - Flashy, Devil May Cry, S rank style. i.e. sword go bang bang during my ULTRAAAAA COMMMMBOOOOOO phase.

Dark Knight - Edgy, hates sunlight, hates himself, total disregard for well being.
Japanese anime hair style up to +11 with street lamp size sword to declare how much pain i'm in with my "Blood Gauge" and how long I have been on the "Darkside" timer. i.e. Strong tank with most oGCD's, coolest DOT in form of shadow.

Paladin - Mitigation Chad, riposte build, mage tank. i.e. I like holding 2 weapons vs. one big one or one small one. I like helping my team the most out of any tank. I have a damage "nope" button.

Funny thing is....out of ALLL of the tanks....the AOE was the least remembered thing on my mind.

I don't have the AOE on my hotbar unless i'm in P3S, which even then....this would be EASIER to pick up the adds then positioning my self in a line to grab the birds. Now I can just circle AOE, circle AOE.....done.

Will I miss the cool look of overpower. Maybe. Will I miss that awkward positioning. Not at all.

Next.

[Elkanah]

The change is.... weird. I'm so used to pulling backwards with the cone (so i didnt have to pay attention). The circle makes the animation look really weird. Gonna be difficult getting used to though.

[castillle]

The change is.... weird. I'm so used to pulling backwards with the cone (so i didnt have to pay attention). The circle makes the animation look really weird. Gonna be difficult getting used to though.

It is weird and its hard to get used to! All these people used to circles dont realize that its just as hard to go to circles when youre used to cones. And if you wanted circle so bad just use mithril tampest,decimate, and steel cyclone O.o

[fafrir]

As someone who actually got all tanks at least to lvl 80, the circle from Demon Slice and Total Eclipse just felt weird to me and I always just feel Overpower just felt the most natural to me, esp since I've used Warrior the longest and the cone is much more valuable over a small circle imo.

But yes, please bring back the cone but also adding the visual effect from this new Overpower would help visualize the cone too. I am still not used to the new Overpower and I do not think I can ever reverse my muscle memory.

[RennyNanaya]

I remember all the way back in 2.x When Warrior's Overpower was beloved for making grabbing adds easier on bosses like Imdugud, because it had an even longer range than flash, and it had strong emnity generation. Since that day, Warrior has always had a connection with Overpower being a uniquely strong AoE compared to all the other tanks and changes that came after it.

Removing the cone, whether you "like the change" or not, was still completely unasked for and only served to annoy the people who did like it. The people who didn't like it had other tanks to use, if they don't like warrior all because of just overpower, they can use them. Removing a unique aspect of a class is just an asinine thing to do, because it slowly sands off all the differences that endear it to players, until it plays like the others for the sake of "accessibility".
Regardless, overpower isn't in PvP and it's no longer used in pretty much any end-game content (anymore) which makes an argument for balancing completely irrelevant, so changing it serves no actual purpose but to cause controversy. I'm firmly in the "just change it back" category.

[Colt47]

I tried the change and this definitely feels wrong. Xenosys made a video praising this whole thing and after trying it I feel like it is more of a nerf to warrior than a benefit. The overpower had better range than other tank AOEs at the cost of hitting things behind it. This new circle aoe actually reduced the effective area for the attack, since once you have the enemies around you it's childs play to hit all the targets.

Maybe they want people to stop playing warrior? I'm hoping they can swap this back or boost the effective radius so it isn't a strait nerf. Not to mention the attack looks way less impressive now than it once did.

Also I'm serious about the stop playing warrior part. I do think it is one of the easier tanks to play due to a number of reasons, including the aoe it once had.

[Absurdity]

I tried the change and this definitely feels wrong. Xenosys made a video praising this whole thing and after trying it I feel like it is more of a nerf to warrior than a benefit.

I certainly wouldn't take his opinion as gospel, he probably doesn't particularly care about Overpower in the first place since he doesn't do dungeons.

[marelooke]

I certainly wouldn't take his opinion as gospel, he probably doesn't particularly care about Overpower in the first place since he doesn't do dungeons.

Exactly, seems most people that "like" this change fall into two categories:
* other tanks levelling WAR and not bothering to learn how to effectively use the cone
* tanks that don't do dungeons (with WAR anyway)

As an aside, others (non WAR) have started noticing as well. I've seen comments that mobs are easier to be missed and pulls are slower after this nerf.

[Sqwall]

I certainly wouldn't take his opinion as gospel, he probably doesn't particularly care about Overpower in the first place since he doesn't do dungeons.

I rarely run dungeons at this point as I just don't like grinding for tomestones. When I'm sitting at 595 and closing in on clearing P4S....dungeons are the LAST thing I worry about. I log in once a week to get my savage clears....play some PvP (now that it's fun)...get the coin from the alliance raid...then log out to go play elden ring or work on the house.

I highly doubt Xeno thinks about running dungeons so he can cap out his tomestones so that he can spend it on gear he doesn't need. Pretty sure he is full BIS on warrior and really if EVER hits the AOE buttons in savage content except out of P3S adds, which isn't hard to grab the adds at all.

I don't even have my AOE's on my raid hotbar set outside of P3S, and generally have my shirk macro, provoke, nascent macro for OT, Arms Length visible. I hardly EVER pull off my main hotbar. I do this simply to put all my focus on the fight mechanics rather then watching my GCD timer roll. Everything is right where I need it.

[marelooke]

I rarely run dungeons at this point as I just don't like grinding for tomestones. When I'm sitting at 595 and closing in on clearing P4S....dungeons are the LAST thing I worry about. I log in once a week to get my savage clears....play some PvP (now that it's fun)...get the coin from the alliance raid...then log out to go play elden ring or work on the house.

I highly doubt Xeno thinks about running dungeons so he can cap out his tomestones so that he can spend it on gear he doesn't need. Pretty sure he is full BIS on warrior and really if EVER hits the AOE buttons in savage content except out of P3S adds, which isn't hard to grab the adds at all.

I don't even have my AOE's on my raid hotbar set outside of P3S, and generally have my shirk macro, provoke, nascent macro for OT, Arms Length visible. I hardly EVER pull off my main hotbar. I do this simply to put all my focus on the fight mechanics rather then watching my GCD timer roll. Everything is right where I need it.

That's fair, but that doesn't mean the change isn't detrimental to those of us who enjoy(ed) running dungeons. Someone who doesn't care about the abilities because they don't run dungeons probably should refrain from calling a change "good" when, in fact, they simply don't care.

Note that this is my understanding based on the discussion that's been had here so far, I personally didn't even know who Xeno was and I also haven't watched the referenced video.