Thread: 6.1 Samurai

Originally Posted by Kazimere

The salty tears continue to drain.

I see you still continue to troll there in forums, maybe express your opinion in JP thread aswell to put those people down too?

Dont forget to add your opinion in balance discord too! Can't wait.

I think the autocrit issue is obvious and reveals a much deeper flaw with game systems that extends far beyond samurai specifically. I don't envy the development team tangling with it.

I dislike removing kaiten immensely. I'm not going to say much about my pedigree with the game or with the job beyond acknowledging that it exists and is deeper than leveling the job once and dropping it. So I'll just reiterate that I really, really do not like the removal of kaiten. I do not buy the reasoning that kaiten is comparable to shinten or to dark arts and I think the loss incurred by lower skilled players for screwing up kaiten was acceptable and within bounds. Players did not get their output dumpstered by screwing up one kaiten.

While I hate the removal, I am not a developer and not privy to their conversations; perhaps it has to happen. I will still forever rip them on the timing of this change. Pushing a major fundamental change to the job like this in a x.1 patch before an ultimate is extremely frustrating. It changes what I would like to play in the ultimate fight itself which necessitates gearing another job on short notice which is stressful and feels immensely disrespectful. I want to be clear; the changes, if they must happen, could be "fine" even if I dislike them. However, putting the changes so close to some of the most exciting content the game has to offer, content that requires a large amount of preparation, is legitimately shocking.

Originally Posted by SlickPaws

Midare Setsugekka potency has been reduced from 660 to 600.
Kaeshi: Setsugekka potency has been reduced from 990 to 600.
Ogi Namikiri potency has been reduced from 900 to 800.
Kaeshi: Namikiri potency has been reduced from 1,350 to 800.

These 4 lines pretty much say it all. I don't quite understand the logic of making the Kaeshi continuations no more potent than the original attacks. It's not like the extra crit damage is going to make up for the fact they're the same potency. So it really look like Kaeshi are just going to be extra buttons you press because they're there and not because you actually *want* to because of the previously huge numbers.

In the end, it's technically a 3(!) DPS loss at best, and a 3% loss at worst with the changes. Crit scaling takes a hit though, so it might get worse in the longer run, but then perhaps they will adjust the potencies accordingly in the next patch/hotfix.

Originally Posted by Arrius

In the end, it's technically a 3(!) DPS loss at best, and a 3% loss at worst with the changes. Crit scaling takes a hit though, so it might get worse in the longer run, but then perhaps they will adjust the potencies accordingly in the next patch/hotfix.

The only good thing they can do is either revert changes completly or revert and also adjust potencies so crit vs no crit on 2 mins will not be massive.

Originally Posted by Arrius

but then perhaps they will adjust the potencies accordingly in the next patch/hotfix.

If they need to resort to something like this to keep up with scaling, then the changes were not good.

After seeing that Fuga and Tenka Goken got converted into circular AOEs, I'm dreading that Hissatsu: Gurren will eventually be getting the same treatment, or Enlightenment on Monk for that matter. God forbid there be any thought given to positioning involved during AOE.

removes kaiten for action bloat
also buffs third eye to encourage more usage of actions
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