Thread: 6.1 Samurai

How is Kaiten different from Shinten? Spend kenki for damage, except Kaiten should only be used on Iaijutsu, and not using Kaiten is a damage loss. Kaiten gives a spending priority to kenki. If Kaiten is removed, then kenki should be removed. Removing Kaiten simplifies the job. It's a bad change to the gameplay.

As for spamming Shinten, we did that in Stormblood. SE didn't like that, so they reworked Hagakure to reduce Shinten spam. Even if SE somehow preserves Kaiten's animation, Shinten spam is so frequent, Shinten constantly interrupts animations. Play the job on a striking dummy without Kaiten, and every 2m burst window, the only visible animation is Shinten. It's an obnoxious sound effect with an animation that doesn't flow into any other animation. It's a bad change to the job's aesthetic.

Overall removing Kaiten is a bad change. If it's being removed because of button bloat, then buttons like Ikishoten/Ogi Namikiri or ST/AoE buttons can be combined. If it's to reduce situations like needing to Kaiten an Iaijutsu but having 3 meditation (forced weaves), then the maximum Meditation stacks could be increased. No matter the reason, there's a better solution.

If Kaiten is removed, then Shinten is next. It's not going to be replaced.