Thread: 6.1 Samurai

It will mess with my muscle memory, but honestly, I won't miss Kaiten. It really had a purpose when SAM was in SB because Setsugeka was all we had, but once we moved into Kaeshi in SHB, it started to become too redundant.

Now that we have Namikiri, it is used so often that IMO, it is a waste of Kenki. I will take guaranteed Crits any day over spamming the same button to get the damage that is expected in a fight. The only thing I wish now is instead of just getting rid of Kaiten, replace it with another Kenki spender so we aren't just constantly spamming Shinten. Gives us that cool looking skill in PVP, make it buff our damage for a time on a 90s-120s cooldown.

The only time I was upset at the devs over a SAM change was when they removed Hagakure in SHB launch. That sucked.

Originally Posted by DaemonInazuma

It will mess with my muscle memory, but honestly, I won't miss Kaiten. It really had a purpose when SAM was in SB because Setsugeka was all we had, but once we moved into Kaeshi in SHB, it started to become too redundant.

Now that we have Namikiri, it is used so often that IMO, it is a waste of Kenki. I will take guaranteed Crits any day over spamming the same button to get the damage that is expected in a fight. The only thing I wish now is instead of just getting rid of Kaiten, replace it with another Kenki spender so we aren't just constantly spamming Shinten.

The only time I was upset at the devs over a SAM change was when they removed Hagakure in SHB launch. That sucked.

They cannot - will not - add anything to replace Kaiten. What could they possibly add as a kenki spender? Kaiten buffs your attack, Shinten deals direct damage, what else could they possibly do to increase damage. Making Kaiten guarantee a crit is effectively a damage buff.

So it's just Shinten spam now, and that's all it ever will be, until Shinten is also removed, because Shinten is an arbitrary button that just spends a gauge that only exists for Shinten (and Senei, which would just become its own, stand-alone CD).

(Also, we did Kaiten Higanbana in SB)