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    All I know is that I'm going to have to remateria my gear for Direct Hit/Det mostly now.

    Or maybe I can go for SKS and go back to fast SAM.

    The worst thing about Kaiten removal is mostly that it's just going right feel odd NOT using it after so long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    All I know is that I'm going to have to remateria my gear for Direct Hit/Det mostly now.

    Or maybe I can go for SKS and go back to fast SAM.

    The worst thing about Kaiten removal is mostly that it's just going right feel odd NOT using it after so long.
    Oh this is true, melds are probably going to change much like how WAR has different melds.
    So uh, it's gonna make things more awkward for MNK if you play that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Oh this is true, melds are probably going to change much like how WAR has different melds.
    So uh, it's gonna make things more awkward for MNK if you play that too.
    Warrior still melds Crit first since, it does damage as well as rate. Warrior used to skip DH as that was just rate. There is going to be no difference with SAM, you will still want Crit and you can still meld DH without consequence, as, it is just auto crits, not auto direct crits, unlike Warrior.
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    Amh Wilzuun
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    Please DON'T remove Kaiten. It's very important to the flow and feeling of the job. There's plenty of other buttons they could have removed besides this one. Samurai in 6.0 was great, not sure why they felt the need to do this.
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    Last edited by Amh_Wilzuun; 04-02-2022 at 12:19 AM.

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    +1 for not removing Kaiten
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    Samurai main here

    I just want my voice to be heard so hopefully the devs rethink this change, I'm a samurai main.

    Removing Hissatsu Kaiten is removing complexity to the job. This is a bad idea please don't do it. Everyone has already pointed out better alternatives. If you're going to remove complexity to a job then you need add another layer of complexity. This change would just make samurais dump Kenki into one ability. A lot of people are pointing out that the reason for the removal is because of button bloat. I don't think we should care about that as much as the gameplay of samurai is being watered down. Don't remove complexity is the main point.
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    Last edited by RankaPC; 04-07-2022 at 02:30 AM.

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    Revert

    I agree. Bring back kaiten.
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Since i started to play at the end of Shadowbringers i wanted to stay SAM for Endwalker. I pretty much agree with everything about "button" bloat, they CAN literally merge 3 abilities into one and no one will complain but no ....

    I like doing parses because there is little to nothing to do after you clear tier (besides ultimates). With these changes i already see memes that will probably become reality as people would not welcome SAMs in log parties....

    Now i dont know what to do, stay SAM or choose between BLM/MNK/DRG .... thanks SE i guess
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    Why did Sam get reworked anyways it was doing fine imo. Was this just unfinished business so that they can suck all the skill expression away from every job.
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    Honestly this is getting frustrating. Removing one of the coolest skills in the game Is a terrible idea. Ruins synergy with other jobs, forces every SAM to completely remeld, even further homogenizes jobs. How about just making Shoha upgrade to Shoha 2, and putting ikishoten and ogi Namikiri on the same button?
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