Thread: 6.1 Samurai

Originally Posted by Engaru

100% agree. This simplification of jobs is a bad sign for the future. I've seen it happen in multiple MMOs now and in all of them the classes are just some homogenised goo who all do the same thing but in different colours.

Us old WoW players are getting PTSD flashbacks. The devs really need to change their stance on how they address job changes going forward

The main issue with the job has been and continues to be button bloat. Removing Hissatsu: Kaiten does in fact, remove 1 button, but that button was part of the core rotation and is part of the kenki management cycle of SAM, which contributes to its skill level. proper kenki management is at the heart of skillful SAM play and learning it makes the job enjoyable.

Having 3 long cool down( or resource-gated) skills does NOT contribute IMO and is a pain to keep on the hotbar. The easiest fixes in the world would have been: Combining Shoha and Shoha II into 1 ability, with a damage falloff. Combining Hissatsu: Senai and Hissatsu: Gurren in the same way. Even REMOVING Hissatsu: Gurren and divvying up its allotted dps into Shoha II would have been better. Lastly, tucking Ogi Namakiri underneath Ikishoten, both of which are abilities used once every 2 minutes and one gates the other. There, 3 buttons removed, and I bet not one person in the entire community would mourn them AND the core rotation remains untouched.

"After reviewing concerns regarding the Samurai changes made in 6.1 to address action bloat, we have decided to increase Hissatsu: Shinten's kenki cost from 25 to 30. Please look forward to it."

The salty tears continue to drain.

Originally Posted by Kazimere

The salty tears continue to drain.

I see you still continue to troll there in forums, maybe express your opinion in JP thread aswell to put those people down too?

Dont forget to add your opinion in balance discord too! Can't wait.

I think the autocrit issue is obvious and reveals a much deeper flaw with game systems that extends far beyond samurai specifically. I don't envy the development team tangling with it.

I dislike removing kaiten immensely. I'm not going to say much about my pedigree with the game or with the job beyond acknowledging that it exists and is deeper than leveling the job once and dropping it. So I'll just reiterate that I really, really do not like the removal of kaiten. I do not buy the reasoning that kaiten is comparable to shinten or to dark arts and I think the loss incurred by lower skilled players for screwing up kaiten was acceptable and within bounds. Players did not get their output dumpstered by screwing up one kaiten.

While I hate the removal, I am not a developer and not privy to their conversations; perhaps it has to happen. I will still forever rip them on the timing of this change. Pushing a major fundamental change to the job like this in a x.1 patch before an ultimate is extremely frustrating. It changes what I would like to play in the ultimate fight itself which necessitates gearing another job on short notice which is stressful and feels immensely disrespectful. I want to be clear; the changes, if they must happen, could be "fine" even if I dislike them. However, putting the changes so close to some of the most exciting content the game has to offer, content that requires a large amount of preparation, is legitimately shocking.

After seeing that Fuga and Tenka Goken got converted into circular AOEs, I'm dreading that Hissatsu: Gurren will eventually be getting the same treatment, or Enlightenment on Monk for that matter. God forbid there be any thought given to positioning involved during AOE.

removes kaiten for action bloat
also buffs third eye to encourage more usage of actions
???????

Originally Posted by Xenon_S

removes kaiten for action bloat
also buffs third eye to encourage more usage of actions
???????

I was actually sad when they removed the attack you could do after Third Eye in EW... It felt nice to use even if it wasn't a big gain and had a cool animation.
It just added flavor and made it feel like you were rewarded for using it properly.