Please turn on Auto-Demo again?

[LaylaTsarra]

lol. So what that they played by the rules.

Decision to grandfather has been made. So what if you don't like it. Pretty obvious trying to get you to understand that a company keeping trust with its users and not retroactively changing them would do any good in your case. Tell you what come back when you see it in the patch notes but I wouldn't hold your breath.

[Elevin]

Decision to grandfather has been made. So what if you don't like it. Pretty obvious trying to get you to understand that a company keeping trust with its users and not retroactively changing them would do any good in your case. Tell you what come back when you see it in the patch notes but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Then the devs shouldn't change anything in this game, instead, they completely changed how one of the classes (summoner) worked for Endwalker, that's not keeping trust with users. They pick and choose as and when they keep trust with their users. Maybe you are so ardent to defend this practice since you are one of the said users who owns multiple properties. But regardless, it could be considered incredibly selfish to have an individual with multiple properties when there is literally a housing crisis in the game, especially as said properties gatekeep content from players and enable property owners to get rich(er) through artificially limiting supply of resources to those whom are lucky enough to own said properties. When endwalker released, I distinctly recall Thavnairian onions being 500k each on my server... an item only home owners can grow.

[LaylaTsarra]

But regardless, it could be considered incredibly selfish

Oh the selfish card. Got it. And yes I do own multiple houses on multiple servers and yes I do follow the rules. You don't have to like it. What is selfish it trying to take away things from people who followed the rules.

You don't get it and obviously won't but the bottom line is you don't make the rules or the decisions.

I'm sorry, what?

You're trying to say that people who own multiple houses.. Should lose them, as YOU don't consider that a punishment? Things they earned through legitimate channels and SE stating they aren't going to touch them. Repeatedly. will not be touched. Period. End sentence.

Y'all need to drop it. Honestly..[/B]

They don't get it really and SE does so I'll go with the company and it's decisions when it comes to housing.

[Elevin]

Ah, it makes sense now, the forums are full of people who would be affected by this change banging their pots and pans loud. Looks like we'll need to start a movement so that the devs delete your houses then The more people that complain on the forums about this, the more likely the devs will change the rules

[LaylaTsarra]

Ah, it makes sense now, the forums are full of people who would be affected by this change banging their pots and pans loud. Looks like we'll need to start a movement so that the devs delete your houses then The more people that complain on the forums about this, the more likely the devs will change the rules

Not really. You can make all the noise you want but SE won't break that trust with users. They do not and will not retroactively apply rules to people taking things away.

And the forum and the game are not filled with people who own grandfathered homes on the same server I might add but there are plenty who do own FC's and privates where they're got alts playing the game on other servers and data centers. That is still allowed if you haven't noticed maybe try reading the new rules again more closely.

I suspect with you the rules will always be a goalpost you will want to move when it suits your agenda.

[Elevin]

Not really. You can make all the noise you want but SE won't break that trust with users. They do not and will not retroactively apply rules to people taking things away.

I don't think you read my post properly earlier. They already have broken trust with users multiple times. You're not special, especially when the devs have to start making the difficult choices.

On a side note, i ask you this question. Do you recognise the fact that you yourself owning property has put you in a unique position in which you are able to get incredibly wealthy due to having access to the gatekept content?

Secondly, do you think it's fair that you are able to get rich off this feature whilst other players have no chance of being self sufficient and have to instead rely on home owners?

[LaylaTsarra]

Do you recognise the fact that you yourself owning property has put you in a unique position in which you are able to get incredibly wealthy due to having access to the gatekept content?

I am rich and I didn't make my fortune with housing (gardening or airships/subs) I did by gather/selling mats for the longest time. Honest hard work with many hours spent gathering and selling. I could buy an entire ward with spare change if I decided to not follow the rules. I retired back in 4.2 so I don't need a house to make money sorry to disappoint. Try again.

[Nepentha]

Ah, it makes sense now, the forums are full of people who would be affected by this change banging their pots and pans loud. Looks like we'll need to start a movement so that the devs delete your houses then The more people that complain on the forums about this, the more likely the devs will change the rules

People have been banging pots and pans about this for years and SE has been pretty stalwart about it. Multiple house ownership wasn't against the rules back then. And apples and oranges comparisons to other things SE has changed over the years is disingenuous.

How about you bang those pots and pans to get the devs to work on something that would actually alleviate the housing debacle. Like more housing, instanced housing increases. Making it so everyone has access to housing whether you're a new player or one that's been around since 1.0. Something other than this incessant 'I want you to take things away from people!' mantra.

And before you assume, no. My FC has 1 house. I own 1 personal.

[HeyMcFly]

Ah, it makes sense now, the forums are full of people who would be affected by this change banging their pots and pans loud. Looks like we'll need to start a movement so that the devs delete your houses then The more people that complain on the forums about this, the more likely the devs will change the rules

Legend has it: They don't really listen to Na/ Eu forums and there aren't enough people who agree with your stance.

There's no point or justification in taking away houses from people if they've played by the rules. And there are loopholes but it's allowed. Instead of trying to take the ball away that you want from the kids who already have it, just advocate for a new ball. Be proactive. Advocate for instanced housing, larger apartments with addable tenants, auto-demo to be turned back on
Don't blame the players for taking advantage of a system that SE has allowed.