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    Blue Mage spelsl Phantom Flurry and Both Ends description misleading

    The skills Phantom Flurry and Both Ends descripe their damage as "unaspected damage" which seems to be generally used for magical damage. Both skills deal physical damage. The spells are filtered as physical inside the blue mage spell book and are reflected in carnival stage 25 Act 1, but not in Act 2 as expected of physical spells.
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    Also, part of the Japanese description for Both Ends is:

    自身の周囲の敵に無属性範囲物理攻撃。 威力:600
    and part of the description for Phantom Flurry is:

    自身の前方扇範囲に向かって攻撃をし続ける。
    範囲内にいる敵に対して毎秒ダメージを与える。
    威力:200 効果時間:5秒
    効果時間中に再使用すると、自身の前方に向かって無属性扇範囲物理攻撃。
    The descriptions mention that the spells deal physical damage, so the English descriptions should be changed to "Deals physical damage..." like Peripheral Synthesis or Abyssal Transfixion.

    The description for Triple Trident has a similar case.
    The English description mentions that it:
    Delivers a threefold attack, each hit with a potency of 150.
    It does not mention what type the attacks are while the Japanese description does.
    対象に3回連続物理攻撃。
    Matra Magic works similar to Triple Trident, and the English description mentions the type.
    Deals an unaspected eightfold attack, each hit with a potency of 50.
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    Last edited by BowWow; 03-30-2022 at 05:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BowWow View Post
    The description for Triple Trident has a similar case.
    The English description mentions that it:


    It does not mention what type the attacks are while the Japanese description does.

    Matra Magic works similar to Triple Trident, and the English description mentions the type.
    Though many physical blue magicks say "deals physical damage", "delivers an attack" is the game's standard verbiage for physical damage, so it's fine for Triple Trident to "delivers a threefold attack" without qualification.

    However, Launcher "delivers an attack", which it should not because it's magical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Launcher
    Type: Magic
    Aspect: None
    Action Help: Delivers an attack to all nearby enemies ...
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    Oh, I understand that the description is not different to other jobs' actions. I just thought it was weird having every physical-damage spell for Blue Mage mention the type but Triple Trident be the sole exception.

    Launcher's description also does not mention that the damage works on current HP like Missile's description, so the description should probably look like:

    Deals damage to all nearby enemies randomly dealing 50%, 30%, 20%, or 10% of their current HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BowWow View Post
    Launcher's description also does not mention that the damage works on current HP like Missile's description, so the description should probably look like:
    It does; I ellipsed it because I thought we were focusing on magic damage vs physical damage and the language used to indicate the difference.

    EDIT: Oh, you might mean that it specifically doesn't say "current". It does say the percentages. But I'm not sure why we wouldn't just assume it meant "current" HP. When something affects "HP" it means current HP. Effects based on max HP say "maximum HP".
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    Last edited by Rongway; 03-31-2022 at 06:19 PM.
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