End game gearing needs these tweaks...

[dspguy]

Gear acquisition and item levels are fine as they are. Nothing needs to be made easier or have upgrade options added. If you want the good stuff, you gotta earn it.

I agree. The system we have in place now works and has worked well since ARR. If you want that high iLvl early on, you have to raid. If raiding isn't your thing or you can't complete those raids, you wait a while and you can earn both tomestone equivalent gear (24-man) or augmented gear through hunts or 24-man weekly tokens.

I think it is well-balanced. It rewards those who can clear raids with both raid gear or the option to upgrade tomestone gear early on. And those that cannot, have other options but they have to wait a bit.

[Kolsykol]

I don't really want Alliance Raid gear to be on the same level as the BiS.
But I do think that once you've cleared the tier then you've already proven that you've earned the gear, so too much time-locking ends up feeling kinda annoying and dumb.

But really, personalized loot would solve all of my issues with the gearing and would make it way less painful most of the time.
It's not fun to just roll 1-40 on every chest you need every week, especially when you take into consideration that people also just need on chests for their alts or just randomly simply to walk away with something while you may be on your main and actually need it.
It just feels shitty imo.
We both cleared it we both deserve the loot.
And even if one performed better than the other there's no guarantee that the person who performed better will get the gear.

[Saraide]

I don't really want Alliance Raid gear to be on the same level as the BiS.
But I do think that once you've cleared the tier then you've already proven that you've earned the gear, so too much time-locking ends up feeling kinda annoying and dumb.

But really, personalized loot would solve all of my issues with the gearing and would make it way less painful most of the time.
It's not fun to just roll 1-40 on every chest you need every week, especially when you take into consideration that people also just need on chests for their alts or just randomly simply to walk away with something while you may be on your main and actually need it.
It just feels shitty imo.
We both cleared it we both deserve the loot.
And even if one performed better than the other there's no guarantee that the person who performed better will get the gear.

Personalized loot sounds great imo. What makes you against alliance raid gear being on the same ilevel as BiS gear?

[Kolsykol]

Personalized loot sounds great imo. What makes you against alliance raid gear being on the same ilevel as BiS gear?

BiS should be from the hardest content imo, Alliance Raids is more casual content I mean you can basically just spam 1 and get carried.
You can't really do that in Savage.
I think the difficulty of Savage isn't on some elitist ultra level or anything but it's clearly harder than Alliance Raids and imo it's harder than most Extremes.

Doesn't really help PUGs either. lol But yeah, not a good idea. The personal loot system is absolutely terrible.

Why would it be terrible.
In WoW and Diablo 3 for example there's RNG on top of RNG, in FFXIV the gear is what it is I am not saying that the stats should be randomized or whatever.

I don't really understand why you'd be against guaranteed loot for clearing the content.
If you're in a static it'd also just mean that everyone in the group gets gear so if anything it'd help statics too.
The loot would still appear like it does now in my example, just that everyone gets to pick and get it guaranteed instead of roll against each other so I fail to see why it'd hurt statics.

[Saraide]

BiS should be from the hardest content imo, Alliance Raids is more casual content I mean you can basically just spam 1 and get carried.
You can't really do that in Savage.
I think the difficulty of Savage isn't on some elitist ultra level or anything but it's clearly harder than Alliance Raids and imo it's harder than most Extremes.

You want BiS to be from ulti fights?

Alliance raid already allows you to reach BiS ilevel, just purely with tome items. It would only bring up alliance raid gear by 10 ilvl to match that.

[Kolsykol]

Savage is meant to last eight months. If you're doubling the pace at which people can obtain gear, you're equally doubling the rate at which players stop partaking in it. Most players aren't gearing more than two roles nor are they doing Savage "for fun." They're either trying to parse or dropping off to play other games. Furthermore, this system all but kills the catch up patch as none of that gear serves any purpose since we'd have so much gear in the four months prior.

I don't disagree the loot system needs some fine tuning, but this is going to the extreme side. SE isn't going to implement a change that prompts more players to stop doing content.

If people aren't doing Savage for fun then maybe they should reconsider what they're doing.
It's not necessarily doubling the pace whether it's faster or slower will differ from player to player too, all it'd do is make it less RNG.
It doesn't take eight months to gear either so it still doesn't last that long even with the current system and people start later too.

I think people would still do it, even when my NIN and SAM are completed both I'll still do them weekly for alt and glam.

Edit: Also if this is really such an issue they could add extra rewards you can grind for, like mounts you can buy with books or stuff you can buy and sell for a lot of gil on the market board.
There's other incentives they could add other than gear only.

You want BiS to be from ulti fights?

Alliance raid already allows you to reach BiS ilevel, just purely with tome items. It would only bring up alliance raid gear by 10 ilvl to match that.

No but Ultimates are something else entirely and are rarely released.
The rewards for those are glam.

[IdowhatIwant]

You want BiS to be from ulti fights?

Alliance raid already allows you to reach BiS ilevel, just purely with tome items. It would only bring up alliance raid gear by 10 ilvl to match that.

Using just Tome items is not BiS

[technole]

i600 is a 4-month advantage for savage raiding, it always has been.

About the only thing I'd change is add one more twine to the 3rd or add to 4th floor. Unless the designers who do the gear stats get their heads on straight and stop making more roles tainted at needing more tome gear upgrades over savage drop gear.

The amount of jobs the savage i600 head is not best in slot for is rather high and it really shouldn't be that way. They got the savage weapons correct, now get the gear correct.

[IdowhatIwant]

I don't really want Alliance Raid gear to be on the same level as the BiS.
But I do think that once you've cleared the tier then you've already proven that you've earned the gear, so too much time-locking ends up feeling kinda annoying and dumb.

But really, personalized loot would solve all of my issues with the gearing and would make it way less painful most of the time.
It's not fun to just roll 1-40 on every chest you need every week, especially when you take into consideration that people also just need on chests for their alts or just randomly simply to walk away with something while you may be on your main and actually need it.
It just feels shitty imo.
We both cleared it we both deserve the loot.
And even if one performed better than the other there's no guarantee that the person who performed better will get the gear.

Personalize loot was bad in WoW and would be bad in this game. Personalize loot only really helps PUG players while it hurts static raid groups. I think they should cut the currency cost down if anything.

I also wouldn't mind a broader scope of gear just to give you a few more choices as far as stats go but that would never happen.

[Vahlnir]

Personalize loot was bad in WoW and would be bad in this game. Personalize loot only really helps PUG players while it hurts static raid groups.

Doesn't really help PUGs either. lol But yeah, not a good idea. The personal loot system is absolutely terrible.