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  1. #41
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    UkcsAlias's Avatar
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    What if instead of pausing the timer, they extended the remainder on the timer by multiplying that. If your timer had 6 days remaining, this becomes 12, if it had 30, that becomes 60. This way the timers still go on and can remove the houses of truly inactive players, while those who were active, but are affected by any event do get extra time. And this doesnt even always have to be like x2, it could be even a x3, and sometimes be combined with a fixed value of days being added.
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  2. #42
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    Faafetai's Avatar
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    Tai Natuia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    It's cute you think you'd still be able to get a house.
    T_T One day my small fc will have a house.....one day.....one day.....maybe lottery.....lottery *realizes rng is not good in ffxiv and everyone I know seems to have horrible luck* I feel like Cid in RABtoons animation saying airship? airship! aaaairship. except with housing instead.
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  3. #43
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    Rhea Seren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    I think they should never turn off the demolish timer no matter what happens. Like OT said there is always some shit goin on in this world and all they do is taking it as excuse for the bad housing system. If you really want to prevent your plot from demolition because you are to lazy to visit in once every 30 days or took some time of they should add an additional option in the subscription window. Maybe something like 5€ or 10€ per Server, per Plot, as long you pay it dosnt matter what you do and you don't have to login into the game at all. As soon you stop paying the clock starts ticking and when times up your plot and everything on it is gone.
    But... I already pay a sub? Shouldn't that include all conte... Oh.

    Sorry, not gonna open that Shtola's box!

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  4. #44
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    The most backhanded way of an OP saying they want a house so bad. Must be a character in real life and never have an act-of-god problem ever occur.
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  5. #45
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    Aimi Yume
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Think of "instanced housing" like one house per ward. There is nothing else, the rest are just props. There are no neighbors, although there might be NPCs. When you leave your house, it despawns, like a dungeon. When you want to come back to it, it boots up again.

    Apartments, personal FC rooms, dungeons, are all instanced.

    Outside of spaghetti changes, and corporate desire, what is likely needed to implement it, would be servers to run the extra instances of people in their private homes instead of standing in Limsa... and diskspace, to the order of a few megabytes per house.
    Sounds horrible, why not get an apartment if you want this?
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  6. #46
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Never, buying a house in FFXIV is when they get you. Now you have to maintain a sub and log in even when there is no content in the game.
    You don't have to maintain a constant sub to own a house. One month subbed, 6 weeks unsubbed in rotation - you won't lose your house as long as you remember to enter your house just before your sub ends and right when you reactive it.

    Also, the game always has content, Just because you're not interested in doing that content doesn't mean that content doesn't exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    It's another great example of Yoshi P lying to the player base.
    He was not lying. For it to be a lie, he would have had to make the statement in bad faith knowing the development team already had plans to add demolition. They didn't at that time. Demolition was only something they began to consider later when the wards filled up and no more players were able to get a house.

    Development plans are never set in stone. They are always subject to change.

    Now if you want to call it an example of bad planning when there were other games on the market that demonstrated the problems of a fixed location housing system like wards compared to instanced housing, that I could agree with it. I think it's an even bigger example of bad decision making since it's been clear the ward system is a big problem for the game ever since they got forced into adding demolition and yet they won't do anything to fix it.
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  7. #47
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You don't have to maintain a constant sub to own a house. One month subbed, 6 weeks unsubbed in rotation - you won't lose your house as long as you remember to enter your house just before your sub ends and right when you reactive it.

    Also, the game always has content, Just because you're not interested in doing that content doesn't mean that content doesn't exist.
    That arguement gets old, if I am not interested in the content the means there is no content for me. As far as this whole demolition system goes, I just should not have to do any of what you said to keep a house.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    He was not lying. For it to be a lie, he would have had to make the statement in bad faith knowing the development team already had plans to add demolition. They didn't at that time. Demolition was only something they began to consider later when the wards filled up and no more players were able to get a house.

    Development plans are never set in stone. They are always subject to change.

    Now if you want to call it an example of bad planning when there were other games on the market that demonstrated the problems of a fixed location housing system like wards compared to instanced housing, that I could agree with it. I think it's an even bigger example of bad decision making since it's been clear the ward system is a big problem for the game ever since they got forced into adding demolition and yet they won't do anything to fix it.
    That is not my problem, I am a consumer so when I am told a demolition system won't be implemented I expect it not to be implemented. You can say it is bad planning or what ever excuse for the devs but in the end it is still a bold face lie to the consumer. Again there are plenty of other ways to fix this system outside of demolition. It is not my job to figure that out.
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  8. #48
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    That arguement gets old, if I am not interested in the content the means there is no content for me. As far as this whole demolition system goes, I just should not have to do any of what you said to keep a house.




    That is not my problem, I am a consumer so when I am told a demolition system won't be implemented I expect it not to be implemented. You can say it is bad planning or what ever excuse for the devs but in the end it is still a bold face lie to the consumer. Again there are plenty of other ways to fix this system outside of demolition. It is not my job to figure that out.
    You'll note they don't make those promises anymore because people don't understand things change.

    Plus, that was a promise made in like, 2013..... If you joined in 2019 or 2020, you weren't lied to.
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  9. #49
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You'll note they don't make those promises anymore because people don't understand things change.

    Plus, that was a promise made in like, 2013..... If you joined in 2019 or 2020, you weren't lied to.
    Yeah that date is when you join the forums not when you started the game.
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  10. #50
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Yeah that date is when you join the forums not when you started the game.
    Well, you clearly weren't upset enough to complain on the forums when the change was made then
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