Can we just end ALL demolishion pauses forever?

[Risvertasashi]

Housing was originally FC only. When they saw that most of the wards were empty, they decided to just add the player housing to the FC wards, since they planned on having the separate at the start, but having a lot of empty space is a waste.

After it filled once it went to everyone, the PLAYERS asked for a demo system after a period of time, because players were perma quitting the game and owning houses.

It's a bit disingenuous to blame the demo system on players. Yes, players asked for it, like we asked for the lottery system. It's a band aid fix on a terrible system that will never have anywhere close to 'sufficient' capacity for meeting players' desires.

Almost everyone that's advocated for those things would rather have a system where they're simply not necessary. However, since SE is incredibly stubborn about sticking with it, it leaves us players with the only real practical option being to suggest which bandaids will make the bulletholes bleed a tiny bit less. Because SE might actually do those, but definitely won't give us better underlying system no matter how much we ask.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It's a bit disingenuous to blame the demo system on players. Yes, players asked for it, like we asked for the lottery system. It's a band aid fix on a terrible system that will never have anywhere close to 'sufficient' capacity for meeting players' desires.

Almost everyone that's advocated for those things would rather have a system where they're simply not necessary. However, since SE is incredibly stubborn about sticking with it, it leaves us players with the only real practical option being to suggest which bandaids will make the bulletholes bleed a tiny bit less. Because SE might actually do those, but definitely won't give us better underlying system no matter how much we ask.

I'm not blaming anyone, I'm explaining the sequence of events to players who probably weren't around 8 years ago or so.

[Stepjam]

It's a bit disingenuous to blame the demo system on players. Yes, players asked for it, like we asked for the lottery system. It's a band aid fix on a terrible system that will never have anywhere close to 'sufficient' capacity for meeting players' desires.

Almost everyone that's advocated for those things would rather have a system where they're simply not necessary. However, since SE is incredibly stubborn about sticking with it, it leaves us players with the only real practical option being to suggest which bandaids will make the bulletholes bleed a tiny bit less. Because SE might actually do those, but definitely won't give us better underlying system no matter how much we ask.

Well I feel like the only way we'll get a system where everyone can have a house was if they moved to individual instanced houses. Housing wards are actually kinda server intensive. You have a pretty large area with about 30 unique houses, each with front yard stuff that can be configured in all sorts of imaginable ways. And the game has to keep track of all of this as long as the housing instance is open. And as long as at least one person is AFKing somewhere within the instance, the game has to continue to keep track of everything. And I dunno about most FCs, but mine basically always has at least someone hanging out in front of the house which means our ward basically is always in action. Now imagine that every single ward is like this, and the game has to keep track of every piece of furniture in front of every single house on every single ward potentially 100% of the time. That's a fair amount of server power.
And the reason individual houses would likely fix that is that the game only ever has to keep track of one house per instance and MOST people don't AFK in front of their homes, meaning every single home that doesn't have someone in front of it can easily be cycled out. Which leads to a lot less server stress. I think this system would allow everyone to get a house, but we are a few expansions too deep into the game to get an overhaul like that without pissing off a lot of players unless they did both. I know there are rumors that the hidden islands are gonna allow for individual housing, so maybe that'll put a relative end to this. We can only hope.