What's you method of play?

[Honz]

I know that but as a pug how are you holding hate on all of them if you are not in melee range?

Cross class abilities. Accomplice on ranged DD, Warmonger, and with the Intimidation trait. Ferocity II, Raging Strike II, Hawk's Eye, Profundity II, and Blood Rite II all do a ton of threat as well.

[arlee]

Cross class abilities. Accomplice on ranged DD, Warmonger, and with the Intimidation trait. Ferocity II, Raging Strike II, Hawk's Eye, Profundity II, and Blood Rite II all do a ton of threat as well.

yeah you've used all those moves, now what? you just stand out of range and wait for buffs to reset and recast? How are you holding hate w/o any attacks. Those buffs do generate alot of hate and you can accomplice other people but from what I know accomplice doesn't take all the hate from a player it just takes a portion.

Kind of a waste for a pug to tank if you've got a tham they can do the same thing and do damage at the same time, your role would be better off doing DD on Dodore & Minions instead of tanking.

Who said that was my tanking gear? Pugs are not the best single target tanks and not the best aoe tanks, I have no reason to tank as pug other than Dodore and what I wear isn't far from the best mdef pugs can get.

never said that was your tank gear, fact is it stinks for tank or DD gear. Pug are not the best single target tanks but I'll say they do better on single target than groups. What reason do you have to be a tank for Dodore? Tham can do the same thing and do dots and spells, while as a pug your just standing there and doing nothing but spamming buffs that you are not going to do anything with and doing 0 dmg at the same time

[Honz]

yeah you've used all those moves, now what? you just stand out of range and wait for buffs to reset and recast? How are you holding hate w/o any attacks. Those buffs do generate alot of hate and you can accomplice other people but from what I know accomplice doesn't take all the hate from a player it just takes a portion.

Kind of a waste for a pug to tank if you've got a tham they can do the same thing and do damage at the same time, your role would be better off doing DD on Dodore & Minions instead of tanking.



never said that was your tank gear, fact is it stinks for tank or DD gear. Pug are not the best single target tanks but I'll say they do better on single target than groups. What reason do you have to be a tank for Dodore? Tham can do the same thing and do dots and spells, while as a pug your just standing there and doing nothing but spamming buffs that you are not going to do anything with and doing 0 dmg at the same time

Obviously you've never been in a Dodore fight, all we have sometimes is just 2 archers and hes downed in less than 15 mins. Our gladiator does the same thing when he distance tanks Dodore with the exception of spamming wardrum.

Before you start criticizing my gear prove that you even know what you're talking about. I have Tarred Leather Trousers and Bucc's boots believe me its such a minor detail it does nearly nothing.

Not really about proficiency considering how Dodore spawns my LS gets whoever is on and goes out to kill him some times there isn't a glad so any person who can hold aoe threat will do. NMs are a real pushover and Dodore being the easiest of them, my point is Glad, Pug, Thm, Mrd, heck even Lnc with enough mnd and mdef gear can tank Dodore. Apart from Thms who can solo dodore I've personally seen people do it with as few as 3 people and no thm.

[arlee]

Obviously you've never been in a Dodore fight, all we have sometimes is just 2 archers and hes downed in less than 15 mins. Our gladiator does the same thing when he distance tanks Dodore with the exception of spamming wardrum.

Before you start criticizing my gear prove that you even know what you're talking about. I have Tarred Leather Trousers and Bucc's boots believe me its such a minor detail it does nearly nothing.

I've done Dodore just never tanked it, I've also done it with just a tham, tham can solo it himself but sometimes its fun to duo.

I agree right now gears statwise are pretty broken that most upgrades are so minimal its not a big deal for now. That doesn't mean you should run around in crap that adds no benefit to you.