What's you method of play?

[Meleena]

Now that you mentioned it, what is your opinion about disabling baghnakhs?
They paralyze the enemy right?
Doesn't this effect make them a better weapon than Peiste? I mean it's a very good effect right? How often can you land the paralyze?

[ShadowCadja]

Disabling Baghnakhs inflict Paralyze, Poison, and 2 more enfeebles I can't remember atm, in NMs I see Poison and Paralyze in the NM, so I don't think it's very hard to land Paralyze and Poison, I would say 1 in 10 hits (this for Pugilist is nothing since Flurry is 3 hits... lol).
And I have a pair of +1 Disabling, it's attack gets higher than NQ Peiste Cesti, so yah, I think it's more useful using the disablings, more useful in NMs in my opinion~ ^_^

[Akuun]

Tanking, sure PGL can tank well and almost with no problems if you have a good eva build, but you still won't be able to tank a "group" of mobs, let's say Dodore and his minions, is just too hard for PGL to keep hate from those type of situations

Pugilist is one of the best hate generating tanks in the game.
Even with Out of Sight, I still regularly pull hate.
If i don't have that trait equiped, I end up tanking, and this is with the 2-3 gladiators having Intimidate equiped, Warmonger, Provoke and Wardrum used every time they are up.

As soon as I start using Accomplice they can't pull hate off me, not even the archers spamming all there buffs and hitting for crazy damage.

[ShadowCadja]

Yah, but try keeping Dodore and his minions on you all the time or even Goblins NM. =/ I never said PGL can't tank, we just can't tank with mob groups.

[Akuun]

Weapon skill, aura pulse
Accomplice a healer, they will have group hate
For starting, I would suggest having maurader to 30 for warmonger
Shock spikes will also help while establishing hate

It's really just a matter of setup and what you have available, if nothing else just have a glad start and accomplice them, or a marauder will work as well

[arlee]

Disabling Baghnakhs inflict Paralyze, Poison, and 2 more enfeebles I can't remember atm, in NMs I see Poison and Paralyze in the NM, so I don't think it's very hard to land Paralyze and Poison, I would say 1 in 10 hits (this for Pugilist is nothing since Flurry is 3 hits... lol).
And I have a pair of +1 Disabling, it's attack gets higher than NQ Peiste Cesti, so yah, I think it's more useful using the disablings, more useful in NMs in my opinion~ ^_^

disabling is just paralyze and poison, no clue what smothering inflicts. but the proc rate seems pretty decent.

Your HQ bagnakhs beat out a NQ cesti, thats why you have to get a HQ cesti or hora. Used my reg disablings on NMs seems they did lower dmg compared to the other knuckles

Weapon skill, aura pulse
Accomplice a healer, they will have group hate
For starting, I would suggest having maurader to 30 for warmonger
Shock spikes will also help while establishing hate

It's really just a matter of setup and what you have available, if nothing else just have a glad start and accomplice them, or a marauder will work as well

i agree about utilizing the diff skills from other classes for certain situations, warmonger will def help for holding multiple mobs and using aura pulse or brandish II.

but as for dodore I'm not sure, Akuun you actually tanked Dodore and all his mobs? or just a a minion or Dodore? Doubt a DoW can tank them all since in melee range they would be using Lvl 5 Petrify and Tail Whip. Thats bascially GG right there your not gonna be using any of your moves to be able to hold hate properly

[Ichi]

You don't have to tank dodore and his minions at melee range to be tanking. If I have to i tank as pgl from a distance they don't move in since they can hit you fine with range and they're not smart enough to move in for petrify etc.

[Akuun]

i agree about utilizing the diff skills from other classes for certain situations, warmonger will def help for holding multiple mobs and using aura pulse or brandish II.

but as for dodore I'm not sure, Akuun you actually tanked Dodore and all his mobs? or just a a minion or Dodore? Doubt a DoW can tank them all since in melee range they would be using Lvl 5 Petrify and Tail Whip. Thats bascially GG right there your not gonna be using any of your moves to be able to hold hate properly

I don't tank on dodore due to the method of tanking I use
Basically I would have him and his group on me with no way for anyone to pull them off.
I'm pretty much the super enmity tank, so everyone else can unload as much damage
as possible with out worry of pulling hate.
The great buffalo seems tricky as it's hate seems to reset regularly or just ignores it.

[Meleena]

disabling is just paralyze and poison, no clue what smothering inflicts. but the proc rate seems pretty decent.
Your HQ bagnakhs beat out a NQ cesti, thats why you have to get a HQ cesti or hora. Used my reg disablings on NMs seems they did lower dmg compared to the other knuckles

If the proc rate is decent like you say and the effect is potent enough, then I believe that this effect alone makes this the better weapon even if Peiste +1 is a bit stronger.
I have not tested this myself (Only 45R atm) but it sounds good in theory :P

[ShadowCadja]

disabling is just paralyze and poison, no clue what smothering inflicts. but the proc rate seems pretty decent.

Your HQ bagnakhs beat out a NQ cesti, thats why you have to get a HQ cesti or hora. Used my reg disablings on NMs seems they did lower dmg compared to the other knuckles

As I said in my previous post, I prefer to be inflicting effects on mobs and doing some dmg than try going all DD on NMs with Pugilist, since even if we go all out, we still can't compare to the damage inflict by ARC and LNC, for me the disabling are my weapon of choice for NMs, even though I have already landed a 604 dmg Victimize II on Uraeus, but took time to get that out... lol
About Smothering, they inflict at least Slow, Sleep, Poison and Silence, and I'm almost sure that Disabling also inflict Silence but much more rarely than the smothering, I've seen Paralyze, Poison and Silence show up on the mobs I attack, but I can't say for sure if it's me or not since I only noticed more in NMs, but once the servers get back up, I'll check out exactly what effects it gives.