What's you method of play?

[Meleena]

I want to see that translated to stats too if possible please, and yeah I know that gear doesnt function well, but then again this topic is about our method of play, something that will change too with the changes on the battle system right? :P
My concern is about whats happening right now in to the game.

I wanted to see accessorie combinations too, I believe that 4 darksilver rings+1 are currently the best choice that i can think off (although no evasion there).
Thanks for your advice though it is really informative

[Akuun]

Sure. atm i'm in the middle of trying another stat spec, but usually i do NMs with 2k+ HP MP varies but you shouldn't have to worry too much about curing yourself at 50 (all party stuff lol)
Att 149 Jade hora +1, Mythril choker
Acc 170 Jade Hora +1, Brass ring x4 (best acc to slot ratio i've found)
Def 349
Eva 175
M.Def 339

As you can see def and m.def are almost even, so very well balanced, evasion seems to be 50% of those, and this is the best evasion on gear other than the head which is 1 less evasion

[Meleena]

Ok I am curently at 153 evasion, but my defence is at 403 witch one do you think its better to have?
and is it worth it to have both and change depending the situation or do you think that higher eva is the absolute best?

[Akuun]

Both are good
If you evade you take no damage at all
With defense, you simply take less damage
Unless you can hit 100% evasion, or 100% nulification of damage, you're usually best off strikeing a balance between the 2
Also play style comes into play as well, if you find your self relying heavily on evasion abilities, then evasion gear will likely aid you a little more.

I know in some games players like to break everything down into a formula and take the fun of individuality out, just to prove that their setup is better. All they do is suck the fun out of it. ^^

With all the coming changes to the armory system, new gear, and changes to classes, I say, have fun, pick out some gear you like and have fun. ^^

As for is it better to have both, definitely, some mobs do magical aoes, some do physical, and some just hit no matter how good you can evade ^^
Knowing your enemy is one of the best routes to success.

[Meleena]

I know in some games players like to break everything down into a formula and take the fun of individuality out, just to prove that their setup is better. All they do is suck the fun out of it. ^^

Nah I am not trying to do that, what I wanna do is to see how things work for other people and then pick one that I think it would work for me.
I said in my earlier posts that I am not relying on evasion that much so I wanna see how well evasion works for other people and adapt that knowledge into my gameplay.
So right now I am open for opinions on equipment, stats and methods of play, I do not support something over another.

Id like to know the stats and gear of more Rank 50 players too, If you guys read this topic please share the knowledge :P

[arlee]

Nah I am not trying to do that, what I wanna do is to see how things work for other people and then pick one that I think it would work for me.
I said in my earlier posts that I am not relying on evasion that much so I wanna see how well evasion works for other people and adapt that knowledge into my gameplay.
So right now I am open for opinions on equipment, stats and methods of play, I do not support something over another.

Id like to know the stats and gear of more Rank 50 players too, If you guys read this topic please share the knowledge :P

if you are not relying on evasion why would you even bother with evade gear just go straight defense and rely on featherfoot when you want a evade.

stats: (going for balance so nothing is maxed out)
Str: 158
Vit: 151
Dex: 146

(with Peiste Cesti Equipped +Str/Dex Rings)
Attack: 145
Accuracy: 164
Defense: 390
Evasion: 151
M Def: 347

my gear

Knuckles:
Jade Hora +1 (tanking NMs)
Peiste Cesti +1 (when i want accuracy)
Boarskin Himnantes +1 (for reg farming and non NM stuff)

Head - Silver Tricorne
Body - Buccaneers Shirt
Waist - Bucaneers Sash or Tarred Voyagers+1
Hands - Spiked Leather Armguards
Legs - Tarred Leather Trousers
Feet - Buccanner's Boots

Accessories:

Defense/Acc Setup (supposedly the +1s have hidden stats of attack+5, but you don;t see it in your stats so no clue if it is going up or not)
3x Brass Rings +1 - 1x Silver Ring +1
1x Silver Choker +1

Str/Dex Setup
2x Sunstone+1 & 2x Fluorite+1


darksilver rings not worth it to me the def eva upgrade is so minimal for the 3 slot cost each rather go 3x brass 1x silver and a silver choker same goes for the +7 stat rings

[Akuun]

Sorry didn't mean to imply that you were attempting to formulate the game ^^
I agree with what arlee said if you're not building an evasion pug.
Just look for def and m.def gear, and use what's best for the situation.
Like if you're doing an imp or elemental leve, then you'd want to use more m.def gear obviously ^^

As for evasion, it may get re balanced, atm it works well on some mobs, and poorly on others.
Toads, and Mongrels are great to use evasion on. (just to name a couple)
Other mobs straight def will win out because of the accuracy, or m/def because you simply can't evade magic.

Also another thing I don't think has been mentioned, and that I failed to note myself is HP gear
Since you only get around 5-6 per point of vit from 100-128 (haven't checked to see if it's a steady or diminishing return)
HP gear can easily replace several stat points in vit that would otherwise offer little to no change in damage reduction.
Just don't go crazy and hurt other stats. (but most of the high def gear has +HP already)

Cheers

[Meleena]

if you are not relying on evasion why would you even bother with evade gear just go straight defense and rely on featherfoot when you want a evade.

Didn't rely on it till now, If I find that its better I wanna try it and see if it goes well for me too.

darksilver rings not worth it to me the def eva upgrade is so minimal for the 3 slot cost each rather go 3x brass 1x silver and a silver choker same goes for the +7 stat rings

[Edit]
Ok heres the stats for the accessorie combos:

[4D.slv]
Att:
Acc: +12
Def: +16
M.def: +16
Eva: +8
Res: +12

[3Bss.R 1Slv.R Slv.Ch]
Att: +3
Acc: +13
Def: +17
M.def: +14
Eva: +5
Res: +7

If you replace the Silver Chocker with a Silver Earring you lose +3 attack and +2 M.def but you gain +4 Evasion.
If you compare this with 4 Brass rings, 1 Brass Earring and 1 Brass Chocker, you trade +1 attack and +1 accuracy for -1 defence and -4 evasion.

I don't know, this slot system on accessories is stupid, if you compare the trade offs it seems better to just go with 2 Electrum rings, 1 Brass ring and 1 Brass Earring where you trade +2 attack for +1 accuracy and +3 resiliance which is still bad :P

[Ichi]

HP: 2024
MP: 456
ATK: 145
ACC: 164
EVA: 170
DEF: 360
MDEF: 357
MACC: 119
MPOT: 15

that's with Peiste Cesti +1 which i use most commonly (though I also have Jade Hora, Disabling Baghanakhs and Smother Baghanakhs +1), Silver Tricorne +1, Buccaneer's Shirt, Buccaneer's Sash, Spiked Leather Armguards +1, Vintage Hose +1, 3 Garnet Rings, and Padded Leather Duckbills (still haven't gotten my hands on buc boots)

[ShadowCadja]

I'm starting to think I'm a weird Pugilist, since I basically just go more for the same role as LNC basically, enfeeble the mobs, with Disabling Baghnakhs inflict paralyze and etc., and also support the party in generating TP and stop mobs generating TP(But I still need to get LNC higher so I get Twisting Vice, Comrades in Arms II and etc~ =[ )
I don't think that PGL fit as main tanks or DDs. Tanking, sure PGL can tank well and almost with no problems if you have a good eva build, but you still won't be able to tank a "group" of mobs, let's say Dodore and his minions, is just too hard for PGL to keep hate from those type of situations, and about DD, as a friend of mine said, PGL is one of the worst in DD, compare with the other DoW except GLA, in relation to dmg, we can say that ARC are 100%, LNC 75%, MRD ~60% and PGL down to 50% or so, we can't compare with someone that has a build for DD for any of the above classes, just no use, so yah, in my opinion, PGL is just more of a support role, enfeeble enemies, off tank if needed and do some DD but nothing out of this world. xD But oh well, that's just my opinion. ^_^

Btw, my stats are 140 STR, 120 VIT and 80 DEX, with gear + traits, I get 167 STR, 130 VIT and 112(something around this) DEX and when I wanna moves like Simian Thrash, I just use Featherfoot II and i get an evade 70% of the time with NMs. o.o;