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    I know that for the time being getting your Mind up is almost useless, but if they ever actually fix the stats, I would still be putting points to Mind even if they don't make Pugilist into a Monk.
    Magic defence is Magic defence I dont wanna have 0 MD Base.
    Unless ofcourse it's proven otherwise by serious and extensive testing.
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    Last edited by Meleena; 03-09-2011 at 07:37 AM.

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    First off, I generally LOVE my PuG. EVA Tank is about the funnest thing.
    As a R46 PuG, I have 2 main ways of playing and using this and that ability. Both I use the same equipment for: got +1 Toadskin Harness, minus changes in rings and earrings. I use Silver earrings and DEX rings when tanking, and STR and DEX rings when DD'ing. Both I have more or less alotted the same attribute points into, pretty even throughout.
    I have also ranked most WAR and both MAGE jobs to 20 for the extra insurance when I solo stuff from time to time. I use Buff abilities and misc abilities (Quickstride) on my second bar from 11-16 usually.

    EVA tank:
    1: Light Strike
    2: Pummel
    3. Aura Pulse
    4. Follow Through
    5. Raging Strike
    6. Featherfoot II
    7. Presence of Mind
    8. Changes between Taunt II for parties and Ferocity solo. Bumps to 6 and FII and PoM get brought up one spot.
    9. Sacrifice II
    10. Second Wind II

    I keep only what I need on my 1st action bar. As I realized playing that most fights take 45sec-90sec or so. I usually alternate between pummel and light strike to keep the buff going, splashed in with some DD, featherfoot and healing in between to keep myself alive.

    Damage Dealer:
    1. Heavy Strike
    2. Flurry
    3. Follow Through
    4. Ferocity
    5. Hawk Eye
    6. Aura Pulse
    7. Raging Strike
    8. Concussive Blow II
    9. Blindside II
    10. Discerning Eye

    Generally on leves, I find that mobs go down in roughly 20-45 seconds. I try to spread out my WS' and Damage buffs to utilize them as much as possible in a short period of time. This is specifically to deal as much damage as possible and nothing more.
    If I have to offtank I usually just switch to EVA tank mode.

    I've died some, i've lived many. This works for me at the moment as I do not like to clog up the bar and with the short time period it takes to down a mob, I don't feel cloggin up all bars with everything is a must.

    On a side note, I haven't done many NMs really. I know the fight goes MUCH longer so I imagine I most likely would put a few extra Damage buffs on the 2nd bar and transfer self buffs to the 3rd bar. I just do not like the lag in switching between bars during battle.

    Hope ya'll have been enjoying PUGs too!
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    maaaaaybe i'm just extremely newb BUT i don't play my pug using purely pug moves or for that matter with just 1 sub o.O.. my set-up is as follows with a completely level point allotment (47) across the board. heavy strike, light strike, pummel, feather foot, ferocity, bloodbath, consecutive blow 2, moonrise, victimize, sacrifice, cure, presense of mind, and stoneskin. as far as gear goes i use dodoskin harness, cotton slops, dodo skin leggings, copper earrings and rings, starter belt and an eyepatch for the smexiness of it. with that as it is i solo ALOT and given the combo plays even if i'm in a party the hate gen is awesome. but i really wouldn't consider myself a tank more so a well rounded player.
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    Then we can agree that with the curent system its best to max Vitality (since you see a difference there) and put everything wherever you feel like? :P
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    hence why you are not evading that much, light strike increases your chance to evade. and for pugs its pretty much spamming featherfoot and using light strikes to boost our evade rate.
    I know, thats what I said, I dont use light strike because I don't really care to evade that much in my play :P
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    Wait, how do you use Victimize II at 42 pugilist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meleena View Post
    Wait, how do you use Victimize II at 42 pugilist?
    lol I'm just getting ahead of myself with wishful thinking. Nah I just use normal victimize.
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    Ah ok

    Can all of you rank 50 guys post here your stats while wearing you best gear of choice?
    I am still Rank 45 and I wanna get some gear and accessorie ideas if possible.
    It can be either a screenshot of your status screen (like Pseudopsia did), or just wright them down.
    I believe it will help other players too, cause I don't wanna spend my money buying what I think it's best and get items that don't worth their price.
    Also please clarify if you have the +1 version of an item.

    What I wanna see is:
    HP:
    MP:
    Attack:
    Accuracy:
    Evasion:
    Defence:
    Magic defence:
    Magic Accuracy:
    Magic Potency:
    (the last 2 are optional)

    Thanks in advance!
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    Last edited by Meleena; 03-12-2011 at 05:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meleena View Post
    Ah ok

    Can all of you rank 50 guys post here your stats while wearing you best gear of choice?
    I am still Rank 45 and I wanna get some gear and accessorie ideas if possible.
    It can be either a screenshot of your status screen (like Pseudopsia did), or just wright them down.
    I believe it will help other players too, cause I don't wanna spend my money buying what I think it's best and get items that don't worth their price.
    Also please clarify if you have the +1 version of an item.
    Right now, gear doesn't completely function as it should. With the coming updates this should be resolved, then players can start to make better gear choices

    Here's a list of best overall evasion defense and magic defense
    Head Tricorne
    Body Buccaneers
    Waist Bucaneers
    Hands Mitt Gaunt.
    Legs Kecks
    Feet Buccanner

    For weapon, jade hora for damage and parry, pieste cesti for accuracy

    + on armor is pointless unless you're main tank (save your gil)
    + weapons are a good investment as they will benefit you whether you are tanking or DD (but look for a good price. 5-15% isn't going to make you godly)

    I gave most of my bucc set to an ls mate
    I currently use the above and for the bucc pieces, toad harness, tarred longsash, and armored caligae
    None of it + and i usually tank gobby pieste and buffalo nms for my ls (better hate control with accomplice)

    Ps: for weapon i use Jade hora +1 and occasionally NQ pieste cesti when i don't want to use food or save on repair costs (10-20k for hora repair from players)
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    Last edited by Akuun; 03-12-2011 at 05:38 AM.

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    I want to see that translated to stats too if possible please, and yeah I know that gear doesnt function well, but then again this topic is about our method of play, something that will change too with the changes on the battle system right? :P
    My concern is about whats happening right now in to the game.

    I wanted to see accessorie combinations too, I believe that 4 darksilver rings+1 are currently the best choice that i can think off (although no evasion there).
    Thanks for your advice though it is really informative
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    Last edited by Meleena; 03-12-2011 at 05:52 AM.

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