Sage suggestions

[HisShadowX]

The general sentiment is Sage's honestly are what they tried to do with Bards. DPS Healers who focus on DPS instead of healing. I have seen alliances mass quit after getting all Sages on the team.

Honestly, I don't consider Sages Healers or good healers in fact when it comes down to it if I get a Sage in my party I automatically will commend anyone but a Sage. With the 6.1 patch increasing healing spells I think the developers have gotten the hint we want Healers who can actually do more Healing instead of DPSing.

[ty_taurus]

The general sentiment is Sage's honestly are what they tried to do with Bards. DPS Healers who focus on DPS instead of healing. I have seen alliances mass quit after getting all Sages on the team.

Honestly, I don't consider Sages Healers or good healers in fact when it comes down to it if I get a Sage in my party I automatically will commend anyone but a Sage. With the 6.1 patch increasing healing spells I think the developers have gotten the hint we want Healers who can actually do more Healing instead of DPSing.

You clearly have a negative amount of understanding about Sage since it's still the highest HPS healer in the game with very few weaknesses. You could always, ya know, pay attention to what your team is doing in battle to decide who you want to commend, but I'm fairly certain you'll just respond with something about how "rational-thinking" is overrated.

As for the OP, here's some feedback:

Points 1 & 2: If you made Toxikon reduce Phlegma's CD by 20 seconds, you'd be looking at an approximate 557 DPS potency 2-button combo on GCD healing, which ultimately means all this effort does nothing to change the healing style of Sage since it's still a DPS loss to GCD heal. Simply upping the CD reduction is, at that point, functionally the same as just increasing the potency of Toxikon, and it's been discussed before about how that's not really a great idea on it's own. Either it's a DPS loss and we don't care about using it, or it's neutral or a gain and we spam GCD healing whenever possible which is antithetical to Sage's design. It needs more nuance to allow Toxikon to shine without making it a spammable tool.

Point 3: It makes sense with the idea of making Toxikon reduce Phlegma's cooldown, but seeing as that is not an effective solution, it's ultimately not a necessary change. It would also inadvertently increase Sage's burst DPS, which isn't inherently bad, but should be taken into consideration.

Point 4: I think it would just make more sense for Soteria to be AoE and essentially function as a temporary, secondary Kardia.

Point 5: Interesting, but I'm not really sure what your goal is with this from a gameplay perspective. It would mean you'd want to use Kerachole much earlier to build up that stacking barrier before a nasty raidwide. Currently we try to use it just before a raidwide, or in certain situations earlier to have the cooldown back again for the next raidwide, but it would also cut out a big chunk of our AoE healing. Perhaps the Soteria or Physis II change would compensate, but I'd definitely want to test out what that feels like in practice.

Point 6: If you're spreading out 170 across 30 seconds, that would just be a heal of 17 potency per tick. I'm not sure if that's worth the thematic synchronization.

[Mesarthim]

The general sentiment is Sage's honestly are what they tried to do with Bards. DPS Healers who focus on DPS instead of healing. I have seen alliances mass quit after getting all Sages on the team.

Honestly, I don't consider Sages Healers or good healers in fact when it comes down to it if I get a Sage in my party I automatically will commend anyone but a Sage. With the 6.1 patch increasing healing spells I think the developers have gotten the hint we want Healers who can actually do more Healing instead of DPSing.

I'm going to assume this is more of a you problem, not a Sage problem. I haven't failed a pull since the start of this expansion regardless how bad the party has been. But good on you for effectively giving innocent Sage players the middle finger simply because you don't like their job, that'll show em! /s

Healers might not be very well designed but if the party dies because the healer is only dpsing and not healing, and no one else is playing poorly, then that is a player problem not a Sage problem. Between Kerachole, Taurochole, physis, Haima, Painhaima, etc you have more than enough tools to avoid wipes even in below average parties. So tone down your healer bashing just a smidge, I even noticed you have a tank forum thread complaining too.



But on this topic I did always find toxicon to be exceptionally underwhelming. Addersting just feels flawed. It would be nice if the mechanic did synergize with the rest of the kit in some fashion.

[Liam_Harper]

Don't feed the troll. He's a 0 mitigation tank who got called out for it a while back but decided to go on a vendetta against healers instead for not covering for his own faults. Nothing to see here.