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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariabeth View Post
    Welcome, it has always been like this! I don't know how you perceived the game in any way other than casual and friendly!
    There is challenge for those who want challenge, there is social content for those who want to be social, there is grind for those who want grind.
    There is something for everyone, save for that one type of person that wants to be challenged around every corner. I'm afraid FFXIV is not that, and never will- nor should be.

    The game population slows down, or "becomes a dead wasteland", because players are encouraged to enjoy other things.
    Some play other games, some look beyond the veil of patch:current.x to enjoy the older but still valid content, and some spend their time moping on the FFXIV General forum.
    Nobody perceives this game as anything other than casual and friendly. I’m replying to the OP, which seems like a new player turned off by it, so he will likely quit soon. Just reaffirming his observations. Some people can stomach the fact the game is so easy, others can’t.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 03-30-2022 at 11:18 PM.

  2. #42
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    yeah I feel you OP, my brother wanted to play ffxiv and go on an adventure but I told him the game is very solo until dungeons and nothing good about the open world except fates.

    my brother loved ffr7 but I know he likes challenging games and likes a deep combat system.


    unfortunately FFXIV combat system is deep as a puddle just pressing 1,2,3 in a rotation and combat doesn't really change much from that.


    I told him the game isn't for him, and he wouldn't like it.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    unfortunately FFXIV combat system is deep as a puddle just pressing 1,2,3 in a rotation and combat doesn't really change much from that.
    If you're still playing with a three button rotation after level 30, you're playing wrong. Granted, most tank and healing jobs have relatively simple rotations, but heals and/or mitigation should be thrown into the mix in those cases. Most jobs have a relatively complex rotation by level 60 that gets even more complicated as they level to 90. The nice thing about this game is that there's something for everyone. If you want a simple rotation, you can pick a simple job. If you want to go nuts weaving and double weaving between every GCD skill, there are jobs that provide that, too.
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    If you are still reading this thread op what I genuinely recommend if you want to enjoy this game is to get some friends and do all side content that might pose some challenge for you in your playthrough.

    The game was not designed to be this easy it was changes made to appeal to story players basically so don't expect too much difficulty or engagement or fun in normal content.

    Game feels better than any other when you are with friends and when you do the hard content there is to do with friends which is why people tend to look past the negatives.
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  5. #45
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    all jobs are 1,2,3

    or 1,1,2 in some way? complex rotations?

    lol ok

    also yeah xiv isn't for everyone and it doesn't fit my needs unlike FFXI does. I would have been unsub but my brother wanted to try out the game so I'm here until my sub runs out.

    anyways this game is too easy imo, want a difficult more engaging combat MMO. this ain't it
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariabeth View Post
    Welcome, it has always been like this! I don't know how you perceived the game in any way other than casual and friendly!
    There is challenge for those who want challenge, there is social content for those who want to be social, there is grind for those who want grind.
    There is something for everyone, save for that one type of person that wants to be challenged around every corner. I'm afraid FFXIV is not that, and never will- nor should be.

    The game population slows down, or "becomes a dead wasteland", because players are encouraged to enjoy other things.
    Some play other games, some look beyond the veil of patch:current.x to enjoy the older but still valid content, and some spend their time moping on the FFXIV General forum.
    Ugh the amount of sugarcoating in this is kind of unreal lol.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariabeth View Post
    Welcome, it has always been like this! I don't know how you perceived the game in any way other than casual and friendly!
    There is challenge for those who want challenge, there is social content for those who want to be social, there is grind for those who want grind.
    There is something for everyone, save for that one type of person that wants to be challenged around every corner. I'm afraid FFXIV is not that, and never will- nor should be.

    The game population slows down, or "becomes a dead wasteland", because players are encouraged to enjoy other things.
    Some play other games, some look beyond the veil of patch:current.x to enjoy the older but still valid content, and some spend their time moping on the FFXIV General forum.
    “Friendly “ yet massively passive aggressive, go figure. Anyway this notion that the game was “always this easy” is bogus. An absolute fabrication. Revisionist history. Odds are the people who think the game was always easy were playing the game wrong until they dumbed down the rest of the game. This game used to have character progression that made you want to stay and play the game. Now they nerfed it and there’s no reason to play the game between patched. Yoshi P can spin it as “yeah go on break” and you can eat it up, but an MMO that doesn’t keep its audience is a bad mmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariabeth View Post
    Lv 36 Dragoon I see.
    Give it a couple more dungeons and you'll find the greatest danger is your own jump ability!
    Remember. You're not a true dragoon until you've elusive jumped off of a platform

    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    all jobs are 1,2,3

    or 1,1,2 in some way? complex rotations?

    lol ok

    also yeah xiv isn't for everyone and it doesn't fit my needs unlike FFXI does. I would have been unsub but my brother wanted to try out the game so I'm here until my sub runs out.

    anyways this game is too easy imo, want a difficult more engaging combat MMO. this ain't it

    dang. I've been playing the game all wrong.
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    Last edited by hagare; 04-01-2022 at 06:54 PM.

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