Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 49

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Equitable_Remedy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Posts
    917
    Character
    Eristede Kell
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    Am I playing the game wrong?
    Yes, you are.

    1) Being ahead of the MSQ in level doesn't harm you in any—there is no cost to you. You are synced down in instanced content, but consider the two alternatives. You could be exactly on level with the MSQ—and you would have exactly the same set up abilities available. You could be below the level of the MSQ and potentially have fewer abilities available. If you detest being synced down (as somehow different than just not having the levels in the first place), this may not be the game for you.

    2) Dungeons and open world are, by design, accessible content. Savage, Ultimate, PVP, etc. is more challenging endgame content. If you want constant risk of death while leveling, this may not be the game for you.

    3) Yes, comparing two melee DPS classes are low levels is not a huge change (ninjutsu seems quite different from what DRG is doing even at that level, but that's obviously subjective). If you need classes in the same role to play extremely differently from each other at low levels, this may not be the game for you.

    Obviously, I enjoy FF14, which is why I continue to play it. I'd recommend giving it a try (FF14 is definitely a slow burn relatively to other MMOs given the very long MSQ structure), but if the game isn't enjoyable for you, just find a game that is. It's not the case that every game will be enjoyable for every player—that's ok! Have fun with whatever you find fun!
    (4)

  2. #2
    Player
    kaynide's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,881
    Character
    Kris Goldenshield
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    @Gamerdad: This game is definitely easy compared to a lot of games I play. The story is the absolute thing here. While the trials and fights are fun and generally well made by MMO standards, they're nothing compared to the complexity you can experience in a solo game. Honestly I would compare this game less to other RPGs or action games and more to games like.. I dunno... Mario Party.

    If you like MMOs but don't really know what to try, I'd say go for Guildwars 2.

    I wouldn't call it particularly difficult, but it is genuinely has a lot more fun gameplay elements than FFXIV... story is solid, but not as good as FFXIV.

    GW also feels a lot more rewarding when played skillfully. It also has a lot of options for horizontal progression- experimenting with builds etc. It's my alt MMO when FFXIV feels "dry".
    (2)
    Last edited by kaynide; 03-23-2022 at 11:31 PM.

  3. #3
    Player
    Kolsykol's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    3,024
    Character
    Aelona Chillwind
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    @Gamerdad: This game is definitely easy compared to a lot of games I play. The story is the absolute thing here. While the trials and fights are fun and generally well made by MMO standards, they're nothing compared to the complexity you can experience in a solo game. Honestly I would compare this game less to other RPGs or action games and more to games like.. I dunno... Mario Party.

    If you like MMOs but don't really know what to try, I'd say go for Guildwars 2.

    I wouldn't call it particularly difficult, but it is genuinely has a lot more fun gameplay elements than FFXIV... story is solid, but not as good as FFXIV.

    GW also feels a lot more rewarding when played skillfully. It also has a lot of options for horizontal progression- experimenting with builds etc. It's my alt MMO when FFXIV feels "dry".
    GW2 is pretty good I played it in Beta and then after launch for a while and have jumped back into it every now and again.
    Biggest thing I dislike is no holy trinity dungeons kinda turn into a mess, the combat also feels very floaty and I am not a fan of weapon swaps ( really dislike that in ESO too ).
    The profession ( job ) balance is also completely out of wack it's not balanced at all.

    But overall it's a fun MMO just very different.
    I enjoyed it more as a solo MMO tho.
    (0)

  4. #4
    Player
    Ronduwil's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    472
    Character
    Ronduwil Thaliakson
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    I am a new player (highest char @ 36) and I feel like I'm not getting what I should from the game.
    I'm not sure what you feel you should be getting, so I'm not sure how to help you with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    I gain so much experience that I level way ahead of the MSQ which results in being synced, which in many cases removes the functionality of the spells I've earned.
    I agree that the syncing removing functionality is super annoying, but it is what it is. As for leveling way ahead of the MSQ, consider focusing exclusively on the MSQ with your main job and then switching to an alternate job for any FATEs and/or side quests that you want to do. I did that for the latest expansion, and I was able to keep my MSQ and XP gain synced for the most part, even hitting a small wall at one point where I actually had to side quest a couple of hours with my main job to progress.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    It also deters exploring the world and doing other quests as I detest having spells available then having them turned off. That is such bad form. How can I prevent this?
    Level an alternate job alongside your main job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    The game is too easy, near zero risk of death. I believe I've completed 4 or 5 different dungeons at this point and they've been super easy. Open world game play is even easier thus far. Is there a hard mode so a decent challenge can be achieved?
    Difficulty progression is a thing in this game, alongside leveling progression. I guarantee many wipes in your future, but I doubt you'll see any below level 47. As far as open world challenges go, you won't find any while questing. There are some special FATE bosses and elite marks that provide good challenges, however. You're just too low level to have encountered those.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    I have transitioned from rogue to ninja and lancer to dragoon thus far. In both cases the game play didn't change. I thought the new jobs would be more transformative, did I miss a quest (or quest chain) that would have made it be more game changing?
    Once you unlock the mudras for ninja, you'll find the gameplay very different. Sadly, one weakness of this game is that most jobs don't really feel complete until level 70 or so. The paladin rotation, for example, felt super wonky to me until level 80, at which point it finally made sense. I guarantee that playing your job at level cap will feel worlds apart from playing it at low level.
    (2)
    Last edited by Ronduwil; 03-24-2022 at 12:24 AM.

  5. #5
    Player
    Gamedad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2022
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    3
    Character
    Xel Xegarian
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 36
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    I'm not sure what you feel you should be getting, so I'm not sure how to help you with that.
    A challenge and an adventure. (ya, was too vague lol) I'm about the journey, side trips you take along the way and less about the destination when gaming. Because this game is old, it seems the destination is where the challenge is. Because of how the jobs develop, they too are nearer to the destination. The 80/20 rule kicks in for me...is the 20% near the end worth putting up with the 80% less desirable content you have to go through to get there? It's a good thing both the music and artistry are really good!

    I am in no way trying to flame the game, I'm just trying to reset expectations if possible. This game has some really good qualities. One of those is the community. There were plenty of thoughtful comments that were constructive and helpful. I very much appreciate the input.
    (1)

  6. #6
    Player
    MiaShino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2021
    Posts
    509
    Character
    Mia Shino
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    A challenge and an adventure. (ya, was too vague lol) I'm about the journey, side trips you take along the way and less about the destination when gaming.
    This lala over here would strongly strongly suggest sticking through ARR until you finally unlock Heavensward. It is almost meme here "In Heavensward it gets better!" but it kinda really does. Will take between one through three days if you charge through ARR and post ARR. The story improves vastly from, "What the heck am I even doing and why?" to journey across lands near and far to bridge the divide betwixt dragon and man.

    Class progression feels much of the better as you begin to unlock all the stuffs that define how your job plays. You finally begin unlocking content that cannot always be unga bunga'ed to victory. Once further progression occurs into post Heavensward you are treated to Alex (Eight man twelve part raid series, much of the fun!) annnd the Void series (more 24 man raids that are vast improvement over Crystal Tower). Heck even the CT series may be most fun for you if only for something different. World Of Darkness still gives groups trouble some of the time! This unlocks at 50.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    Because this game is old, it seems the destination is where the challenge is. Because of how the jobs develop, they too are nearer to the destination. The 80/20 rule kicks in for me...is the 20% near the end worth putting up with the 80% less desirable content you have to go through to get there? It's a good thing both the music and artistry are really good!
    ARR and post ARR are.. rough. There is no sugar coating this I say with much sadness. Taking from friends, many of them finally began enjoying themselves once leaving ARR into post ARR.

    Be certain you do Blue+ quests once those unlock. There are mountains of side content I feel you will likely enjoy. Many dungeons, entire raids, silly quest lines like Hildibrand which do unlock trials. Plenty all not requiring you to be at end game to enjoy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    I am in no way trying to flame the game, I'm just trying to reset expectations if possible. This game has some really good qualities. One of those is the community. There were plenty of thoughtful comments that were constructive and helpful. I very much appreciate the input.
    Much understanding here! If there are friends and family you can play through with that may improve the ARR - Post ARR grind too. Know this helped my friends and family continue playing when they may have quit. If you can persevere once you unlock "Keeper of the Lake" that is when real fun begins! Best of the luck out there fellow adventurer! If you ever require assistance feel free to boop one of us as it seems you are on my datacenter.
    (1)

  7. #7
    Player
    HisShadowX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    332
    Character
    William Hart
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamedad View Post
    I am a new player (highest char @ 36) and I feel like I'm not getting what I should from the game.

    1. I gain so much experience that I level way ahead of the MSQ which results in being synced, which in many cases removes the functionality of the spells I've earned. It also deters exploring the world and doing other quests as I detest having spells available then having them turned off. That is such bad form. How can I prevent this?
    2. The game is too easy, near zero risk of death. I believe I've completed 4 or 5 different dungeons at this point and they've been super easy. Open world game play is even easier thus far. Is there a hard mode so a decent challenge can be achieved?
    3. I have transitioned from rogue to ninja and lancer to dragoon thus far. In both cases the game play didn't change. I thought the new jobs would be more transformative, did I miss a quest (or quest chain) that would have made it be more game changing?

    Thanks
    So sadly with the old JOB system it is going to require you to do job quests for job abilities from levels 30-60. So all ARR and Heavenward content will require you to do job quests. I can tell you this jobs can feel very different from expansion to expansion. Ninja is a great example of a job that feels so different as you level. Sadly again abilities are locked for ARR and Heavenward but after that all other job abilities will auto unlock and change how to play that job.

    Black Mage I hate playing but once you get past 60 the job changes so much it makes it interesting.
    (0)

  8. #8
    Player
    Doc_Seraph's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2021
    Posts
    367
    Character
    Doc Seraph
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Simply put kupo, you are not playing the game wrong. If you are enjoying yourself you are doing well. <3 kupo
    (5)
    Kupo!

  9. #9
    Player
    Faafetai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2021
    Location
    The Royal Menagerie
    Posts
    350
    Character
    Tai Natuia
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 85
    I have a ps4 account I have been playing on and for some reason I am behind on xp I was also for some reason robbed on tombstones when going through castrum and prae getting only 100. I did undersize brayflox because I didn't wish to be a detriment when first learning how to use the ps4 controller but not getting xp from brayflox should have put me levels behind msq. I had to do a bunch of side quests in coerthas in order to do the quest leading up to stone vigil. I also do not have the earring or the feather and this was right before endwalker around the ff15 event so it might be better now, but my gosh it really made me sad. This also happened to a few friends who also were running through ARR for the sweet ride. They needed to run leveling roulette a few times to catch up, so hopefully what you have said OP is true because that was depressing. I was just going through the story, no fates or side quests just msq and job quests, I did not have enough to do the quest right before stone vigil the one that unlocks it. I didn't have the earring or feather for friend referral just the brand new ring which ends its effects at level 30 . It was also really bad for two friends in particular who kept getting trials for their leveling roulette.
    (0)

  10. #10
    Player
    Ronduwil's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    472
    Character
    Ronduwil Thaliakson
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Faafetai View Post
    I have a ps4 account I have been playing on and for some reason I am behind on xp I was also for some reason robbed on tombstones when going through castrum and prae getting only 100.
    I don't think you were robbed on tomestones going through castrum and prae. The 100 tomestones that you got were for running it for the first time. The additional tomestones aren't granted when you queue directly for one or the other. You have to queue for a random MSQ via the duty roulette to get those. You also get a massive XP bonus for the first random roulette of each type that you run each day. At low level, you can also run levequests to catch up if you fall behind. Also, be sure to log out in a rest area (like a city or an inn). Look for the moon icon next to your XP bar to determine whether you're currently in a rest area. Logging out in a rest area grants you a massive XP buff whose duration depends on how long you were in the rest area.
    (1)

Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 LastLast