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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I got bored by level 63 in the Stormblood expansion (before meeting my now favorite character Hien) and quit until Shadowbringers was released. I begrudgingly resumed Stormblood (ended up loving it by Prelude in Violet - the Eastern storyline was way more interesting to me than Gyr Abania) and finished Shadowbringers and left during 5.1 to play other games.

    I'm presently on my longest sub-spree in my history of playing FFXIV since 2014, and finished restoring the Doman Enclave in 2022. I actually love the time-gating here. I feel like I made an impact over a long period of time, which for my WoL's story as wanting to heavily support Doma worked really well for me. Also they are completely rebuilding and that takes time. None of the storytelling felt outdated or out of place during the Enclave storyline either. (Unlike other storylines like job quests that are far more stuck in their "era" and force you to pretend you moved back in time for them to make sense if you are already past that expansion).

    I'm not really into custom deliveries or most of the Beast Tribes so I have no opinion there, but I'm still of the mindset that I don't need immediate gratification for everything.

    Not everything has to be done super fast. ESPECIALLY the Doman Enclave - I loved having little cutscenes to look forward to every few weeks and it made this storyline feel more realistic, like they were rebuilding as time went on.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 03-22-2022 at 05:21 AM.

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    Ara Amai
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I agree about doman enclave because it only gates story and a few optional rewards.
    Don't agree with beast tribes since they also are used for exp and could be abused.
    This might also be low priority since it doesn't gate the quests themselves but its kinda dumb that to experience story bits you need to do tedious chores that are nothing but chores, it doesn't provide any challenge or real fun to be had and for the past few expansions xiv has been trying to be more of a story game so it would indeed make sense to remove or atleast tweak in some way or another some of the older chores.

    You could also recommend your friends youtube videos in the meantime
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    The beast tribes should be reversed and maybe custom deliveries. You get all the story quests one after another and then the dailies open. Older beast tribe stories were well thought out and getting to do them all in a row would make them so much better. While HW and SB are decent xp for alt jobs. The ARR are completely worthless xp wise. You level too fast through that window and it becomes open to late.
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    I wasn't responding to her. I was responding to you. At what other time do you grind for gear that you get for free later? When else would you be talking about?
    Which gear are you saying is free 6 months after current content?
    Poetics? Capped currency gear?
    Alliance raid gear?

    Either way, they still have to work for it. Just in less time. Meanwhile, as said in OP. Some are still gated weekly.

    If you think your effort when they were current content is gonna be meaningless, just do it when they're not gated then.
    Otherwise, your reward in that case is that you get access to the latest and greatest content with your in-game friends while it's current.
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    Last edited by hagare; 03-22-2022 at 09:15 AM.

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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Pass.

    Not a hard pass though. I understand where you're coming from OP. But once they start down this road, where does it end? Completing EW essentially outdates every single area in the game with the exception of the EW areas, and the First. Doing anything of any kind of significance in these zones after completing the MSQ just feels stale. There are some exceptions, but they are few and far between.

    A big reason to not really reduce the requirements to finish content like the beast tribes (we're supposed to call them "Tribe Quests now), Custom Deliveries, and the Doman Enclave is because there is not much reason to do so. Very little effort is required to progress them, and they don't roadblock anything as far as the MSQ, and raids go. They are also one-and-done. Meaning once these projects are finished; they are done done. CDs and TQs remain repeatable, but soon get outdated as your allowances are better spent on the most recent NPCs.

    Time soakers can be a good thing, so long as the overall time to complete them isn't unreasonable. I don't really believe that is the case right now.
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    Luna Star
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    Its ok to learn to work for things you want.
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    Wise men speak because the have something to say, fools because they have to say something. - Plato - He saw the ff forums apparently.

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    Hope Sunflame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenitey View Post
    Its ok to learn to work for things you want.
    Twiddling thumbs waiting for the next reset isn't work, which is what OP is taking umbrage with.
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    Kassi Thivra
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenitey View Post
    Its ok to learn to work for things you want.
    can you explain to me how any of the things the OP is talking about have anything to do with 'work'?
    there is precisely zero difference in effort if you can only do it once a day or if you could do the whole beast tribe story in one go, but the first one is artificially prolonged due to the allowances, which are a relic of the past that serve no purpose aside from that
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    Dusk Himmel
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    I don't think we need beast tribe allowance anymore tbh
    like if someone wants to do all 70+beast tribe quest daily go ahead
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    I don't think we need beast tribe allowance anymore tbh
    like if someone wants to do all 70+beast tribe quest daily go ahead
    For current expansion beast tribes it still makes sense. Limits your access to rewards like endgame materia and crafting materials. And doesn't conflict with grinding from other sources like FATEs, which is probably their intention.

    For past expansions none of the rewards are relevant for endgame and they really shouldn't be capped. At some point there will be so many beast tribe currencies the will have to consider doing something like that.
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